HHO Implosion Engine Study

[IronHead]

Implosive cavitation in nature

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrktz0QN8hI&mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc&mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONQlTMUYCW4&mode



Yes my study has always been unorthodox, but this brings my understand to new levels beyond the norm.
IronHead

[rapttor]

Ummm hmmmm ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrktz0QN8hI&mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc&mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONQlTMUYCW4&mode

I've had one of these lil bastards in a 300Gal Reef tank before, loud even through 9/16 - 5/8 inch glass. We had to tear it down completely to find him because if they are too close to the glass, or miss fire into the glass they have been known to shatter large tanks. This meant removing almost a ton of live tonga & belieze rock..(no fun at all)..Not to mention eat your expensive imported, really hard to get reef shrimp.


Yes my study has always been unorthodox, but this brings my understand to new levels beyond the norm.
IronHead

[d3adp00l]

Ok guys I did a little thinking and here what I came up with.
1 litre h20=1860 litre hho (this has not been confirmed by me, I would like someone out
                 there to confirm this, pokes IH.)

So the implosion of hho is an absolute necessity, but it is preceded by an exothermic reaction which is an expansion, temp up=pressure up which leads to volume up. Followed by a recombination of h20 which is endothermic, and the end product takes up less physical space, which means pressure down to 1/1860th of start.

This began me thinking about how that correlated with running hho in a normal engine, given its cycle and the basic nature of the fuels chemical reaction process which is very much different than above. In gas engines the air and liquid fuel take up less volume than the end result. In hho the hho takes up much more volume than the end result h20. And the hho burns much faster, report as far as I have found to be 4 times faster. So that would mean if we ignite hho at the same time as gas in an engine the piston only travels 1/4 down its power stroke before the vacuum effect counteracts the power down stroke, so the piston must move through 3/4 of its motion while fighting this vacuum effect, can you say loss of power.

So I came up with a cycle that would use the properties of hho in an engine to get the best yield of power. I must say, if this is true we might just have a winner. I just want to name this cycle, if it works.


1. intake valve opens at tdc, piston moves down, intake valve closes at 120
degrees after tdc, spark at about 135 degrees after tdc. The reason for this is
if hydrogen does indead burn 4 times faster than gasoline the hydrogen needs 1/4
the time of gas. Gas burns for about 180 degrees of rotation, hydrogen would
then only need 45 degrees of rotation to complete its burn 135 + 45= 180 or
bottom of piston travel.
2. power stroke, but in the upwards direction instead of the downwards. Exhaust
valve opens at about 330 degrees of rotation or 30 degrees before tdc, allowing
air to mix with the liquid h20 and as the piston finshes the last 30 degrees of
rotation it pushes that mixture out the exhaust. exhaust valve closes at tdc.
and back to #1

The intake and exhaust valves would open out of the chamber not into it.

Wow only 2 strokes, very little pressure buildup (hho with no compression
stroke) means very little excess heat (actually proly no increase in heat due to
the vacuum cycle, vacuum=colder).
So all of the energy goes to motion not waste.

[IronHead]

EDIT

I fully concur with all that you have layed out here d3adp00l
I been preaching timing for I don't know how long and this is really the
absolute top end of a timing situation for this engine to be as efficient as it can be , Thank you for your research. Now I must apply . If it works you can name the new stroke type of this implosion motor.

I am very close to having a stable and  near fail proof implosion mix.
It wont be long now.

I might need some help from the talented machinist out there in the forums .
I am just a backyard builder and build mostly from junk ,but if this works we are going to need some precision  machine work done . I would much rather the family of the forum do this then outsourcing to a company.


So much to do so little time.
IronHead

EDIT

[yikes]

hmmm, how about a solenoid driven valve. The valve will feel both the explosion and the implosion.
This 2 cycle operation would cut down the intake and exhaust time considerably, but if hydrogen burns as hot as has been reported, having some residual exhaust gas carried over to the intake downstroke may help; further, the intake would already be partially prefilled and the exhaust would not need to be totally emptied, so less time may be appropriate.  A turbo may be a benefit to the intake.
By eliminating compression, this motor won't be very powerful, but it should rev up like a sum bish.