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The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?

Started by Bruce_TPU, July 01, 2007, 12:14:40 AM

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z_p_e

#175
July 03, 2007, 12:20:08 AM
Quote from: EMdevices on July 02, 2007, 11:17:16 PM
thanks for the layer description Brnbrade, that helps.   

I started winding but I missed an aluminum layer, so I got to take it apart and fix it.

Darren, he says the trick is in how you start it.  I thought about this and it could be quite interesting.  I bet we can do a model of this in PSpice, etc..

EM

Perhaps it could be SPICEd EM, but I still have no idea of what the circuit is. I must be dumb because I have not seen a diagram showing all the components.

Could you or someone else be so kind to draw one up? Sorry for my incompetance.

The question remains, why doesn't he post a simple diagram if he wants everyone to get online with him? Why keep everyone guessing?...and it does seem that people are still guessing.

Darren

Mannix

#176
July 03, 2007, 12:46:21 AM
Quote from: btentzer on July 02, 2007, 09:58:52 PM


@ All
Funny thing, I remember SM telling all of us to use mosfets to reproduce waves as if they were mini tube amps.  I have said that about, Oh, 20 times or so.  But this is coincidence I am sure...  ;)



Sorry Bruce

At no time did Steven ever say to all of any body to use mosfets...he only ever said to me that  he used them after using tubes for initial tuning. That is the information ,in context,that I shared.

I know that you are excited But
please do not mis quote..and re interperet...this will be hard enough as it is.

brnbrade

you are going to have to give complete disclosure ..these people really want to duplicate what you have .....lots more pictures with the light on from lots of angles should keep them happy for a while

It looks so simple that any body could make it with out having to learn anything ...unlike a TPU! you the man..Im off to buy a recepie for pie...just in case!

thanks.



Lindsay Mannix

Bruce_TPU

#177
July 03, 2007, 01:08:08 AM
Quote from: Mannix on July 03, 2007, 12:46:21 AM
Quote from: btentzer on July 02, 2007, 09:58:52 PM


@ All
Funny thing, I remember SM telling all of us to use mosfets to reproduce waves as if they were mini tube amps.  I have said that about, Oh, 20 times or so.  But this is coincidence I am sure...  ;)



Sorry Bruce

At no time did Steven ever say to all of any body to use mosfets...he only ever said to me that  he used them after using tubes for initial tuning. That is the information ,in context,that I shared.

I know that you are excited But
please do not mis quote..and re interperet...this will be hard enough as it is.

thanks.



Lindsay Mannix



@ Mannix

Yes I know that SM said to start with TUBES first.  How much of that do you see happening, besides yourself??

So, what do we have...  We have Mosfets and drivers being used in the ECD, unless I read my circuit wrong tonight and I am soldering up (actually my partner! LOL ) the pieces for nothing.  SO, let me make this very clear.  WE ARE using Mosfet and SM said:

"MOSFETS are better you know if you wanted to make an amplifier that behaved as though it was a tube amp but in a smaller size."

So, let me reiterate my point from earlier:  We need to incorporate what SM has said into what we are doing.  How?  Look at the wave that a tube amp puts out and look at our square wave.  Do you see any difference?  Well of course.  Why?  Because one is slightly rounded.  What are the other differences?  There are many..


@ EVERYONE ELSE
I have put together on the first post what is needed to replicate to the best of my ability.  If you can answer the questions I put on there, that would be great.  If you can draw pretty schematic that would be great, and I will gladly post it!

Happy, Happy Days!  (But hearing they hear not!  We need ears to hear and eyes to see)
Bruce 
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

z_p_e

#178
July 03, 2007, 01:23:23 AM
Lindsay wrote:
QuoteI know that you are excited But
please do not mis quote..and re interperet...this will be hard enough as it is.

Exactly.

btw Bruce, which one is slightly rounded then, and how is that significant to the TPU and the ECD?

Darren

z_p_e

#179
July 03, 2007, 01:35:03 AM
brnbade,

I'm not sure if you'll respond to any of my posts, and I'm sure you have 100's of PM's to attend to, but I wanted to ask just one simple and direct question.

I am really only interested in (and the only one that matters) brnbade's response to this, so hang back guys if that's ok.

I have no intention of trying to chase you away or discourage you, I'd just like to know the following:

WHY did you post about your device?

Eu n?o tenho nenhuma inten??o de tentar persegui-lo afastado ou para desanim?-lo, eu gostaria apenas a sei o seguinte:

Por que voc? escreveu sobre seu dispositivo?

Darren
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