The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?

[wattsup]

@BEP

In the patent we read as follows "also a large copper wire of good conductive quality, the wire being well insulated with silk, shellac, or paraffine, etc.". The shellac is the varnish or laquer we use today. Also he is mentioning copper wire.

What do you mean by "Some info that folks don't seem to get here:". I am trying to read between the lines but I don't catch it. 


@all

On a different note, I just got confirmation from this USA company that they have just shipped out one quart of their Aluminium Paint and he is convinced it should do the job. Otherwise they are willing to supply me their Aluminium Paste and I could do some mixing myself. He also said that back in the 50's they would paint transformers with Alu Paint saying it held in the radiation. He also said the paint is very liquid so it will be able to penetrate between the coil windings to create a very solid form. Drying takes about one day per layer. 4 layers.

@guidoc66

Don't make another build yet since I really think the electrical tape may be hindering the coil effect.

Also, take just your capacitor (not connected), load it to 18V, put a small led or bulb on it to bring oen the voltage to about 2-3 volts, then remove the bulb and see if the voltage will go up on its own.

Then do the same thing connected to the CBC to see the difference, if any. I do this to prove the capacitor has no way of going up on its own to the extent that is does. they will always play a few mV but not volts.

So always put a load after charging the cap, bring down the voltage, then remove the load before 0 volts and let it rise with just the CBC.

I will be on vacation all next week and expect the varnish to arrive between then, so I will be ready for my next build ASAP.

[BEP]

@Wattsup

I'm seeing the information in a different way than I've heard here.
Since I can obtain oscillation I know there is something worth chasing so I'm providing what I see is in the data.

The patent was filed in 1871 but magnet wire isn't even close to what we think as magnet wire until 1877. So my question to myself is 'what was magnet wire in 1871?.'
After a lot of digging I find out it was usually bailing wire, uninsulated and poor grade iron. The reference to copper seems to me as a reference to the secondary (the winding powering the load). That makes good sense.
Another piece of info is "or the primary helix may be made of un-insulated wire coiled into a solid helix, being insulated only between the coils". When he talks about the coil with the small wire he calls it the primary. Insulated only between the coils? Solid helix?
What he is calling a helix is what we call a primary or secondary winding.
A solid helix would mean uninsulated wire wound tightly more or less like a sleeve than a winding with the only insulation being between it and the winding above or below it.

When he mentions the multiple currents he appears to be referring to pulses. There were no scopes back then. So what would he call them? Probably currents.

Then - "In the use of compound helices it is important that the secondary coil should be wound on in the same direction as the primary coil, and that the poles or wires should be connected to the opposite poles of the primary coil B"

I see it as both windings on a single core should be wound with the same direction BUT when a coil with two windings is made this way the primary to secondary connections must be swapped.

The size is also an issue with me. Large size means lower frequency. Adding caps means lowering the frequency. I doubled my coil size and the result freq was about 1/4. I don't use caps. There is no mention of them in the patent.

Then 'steel magnets' - if you wanted a permanent magnet back then you laid your bar out on a solid surface pointing to North and whacked it good and hard one time with a hammer. If you wanted to demagnetize it you pointed it East/West and hit it.
Whatever magnets he had they weren't strong. It is easier to perturb a weak field than a strong one.
It is easier to manipulate a field away from the source of the field than on the surface of the source.
The materials Cook had forced him to make inferior windings and constuction - at least by our standards.

I'm saying that if we want to replicate something it must be done with an understanding of what was possible then and how.

It may very well be that BrnBrade has made modifications to compensate for our modern improvements and the difference in word meanings since the original patent. English not being his primary he probably translated the patent with literal meanings. So should we.

As you see I'm not trying to replicate the BrnBrade coil. I'm trying to understand how it all works since there isn't enough information to continue. So I started digging deeper.
I'm just offering what I've found.

[pese]

give attention

Coating . Jes this is an point.
that was silk.   (Seidenfaden umsponnen )  iare exact german words - in dont know the gootengl. words for thistechnic .

so also it is possibel that "iron" wires was used ?

In Austria , was manufactufactures LINE-Transformers , without
needs or Iron core , with Iron Wires !!.

Also i found years ago some  ofer Cook /Mc Fairland thathe uses
19 to 25 (or 27?) turns  on  prime to secondary  !

Think about this

Pese

[Earl]

Hi All,

wires in 1871 would have been insulated with varnish or silk.
The terms "silk covered" and "double silk" covered are well known.

see:
http://www.hws.org.au/crystalset/mystery.html

Even today in modern transformers sometimes the wires are insulated with silk and glass combined.

In the past, some transformer laminations were insulated with silk.

Regards, Earl

[brnbrade]

Hi All 

I have new discovery.
In tests and good results.
No more decrease energy in circuit.
Now ramp ascendent energy.

regards