*The Study of the Practical Mechanics for a Working TPU*

[bob.rennips]

...With all due respect, Bob, you do not see a link between Tesla's Egg and what we are trying to do, no problem.  But some of us, more than myself, brought it to my attention and I agree with them..>Lastly, unless you have spun the egg yourself all you have is theory and conjecture as to "why" the egg spun, the same as us...

I do know EXACTLY why the egg SPINS. It is taught in the UK at school when you are about 15 - for me some decades ago. Hands on experiment!! I've seen the egg - felt the egg. IT IS HOW SYNCHRONOUS MOTORS WORK (INDUCTION SQUIRREL CAGE FOR START UP). The irony of the Tesla Egg is that Tesla designed it so that the layman would understand!!! LOL.

Look up synchronous motors/induction motors and perhaps you'll understand. LOL.
The clue for why Tesla used 10Hz can found here!!

Whilst you are at it look up the difference between an electromagnetic wave at 7.8 Hz (ELF) and a rotating magnetic field at 7.8 hz.  LOL.

Good luck!

Bob.

[Bruce_TPU]

I do know EXACTLY why the egg SPINS. It is taught in the UK at school when you are about 15 - for me some decades ago. Hands on experiment!! I've seen the egg - felt the egg. IT IS HOW SYNCHRONOUS MOTORS WORK (INDUCTION SQUIRREL CAGE FOR START UP). The irony of the Tesla Egg is that Tesla designed it so that the layman would understand!!! LOL.

Look up synchronous motors/induction motors and perhaps you'll understand. LOL.
The clue for why Tesla used 10Hz can found here!!

Whilst you are at it look up the difference between an electromagnetic wave at 7.8 Hz (ELF) and a rotating magnetic field at 7.8 hz.  LOL.

Good luck!

Bob.

Well Bob, you have proved your genius and my ignorance once again.... 
Congratulations!

The schools I went to in Philly growing up, one was much more prone for survival than spinning an Egg.  And until recently I had never heard of the "Egg of Columbus".

When too men far more learned than I, (remember I am just an ignorant farmer, peasant from the colonies) brought it to my attention.  This is our thread to build and experiment as WE desire.  The egg was merely meant to talk about a RMF.  I do know that the 6" tpu vibrated at 7.3 hz and that it was "TUNED" to 7.23.  So I will experiment as I please to also replicate that.  I am glad you held an Egg in your hand.  But I am looking for a vibrating TPU at 7.3 Hz, DC overunity output.

This is my last comment on the matter, for WE would like to get back to planning our build.

Thank you, and cheers,
Bruce 

[BEP]

Excellent!
What I do see are two separate viewpoints.

Both attempting to move forward using an idea. One knows he doesn't have a clear focus on the subject. The other appears to believe he has clear focus. Neither hitting the target, yet.

One probably doesn't completely understand the vectors of a wave. The other seems to forget there is a 'Z' for all waves. Yes, the number used for 'Z' is different between sound and electromagnetic fields because they travel at different velocities.

'ELF' is just a common way to reference the frequencies that seem to impress most here.

By the way, how in the world can an audio speaker work without being resonate. I mean, it can't possibly be resonate. Since the speed of sound is so much slower than light a speaker would have to be huge to work well. Why? because sound is a compression wave and the size of the speaker doesn't need to be a 1/4 wave or some other fraction.

You can't have one type of wave without the other. School girls jumping rope could see it if they would look. The lower the frequency the more pronounced and easier to see the compression.

Take that taught rope and whip one end up and down. The resulting wave will take visible time to reach the other end. At the same instant you are jerking the rope up and down the results can be felt on the other end, long before the wave reaches the person at the other end.

I'm saying the math is correct but the speed variable is wrong. Instead of the speed of light in a conductor try the square of that number. I'm not interested in making a loop resonant at 7.3 - at least not using common antenna calculations. Because I'm not interested in the electrical vector except as a means to an end.

Creating flow in this field will require working with it not against. Maybe that is what SM meant by resonant.

BTW Bob. That unexpected result you mentioned sounds to me like you have gone farther than anyone else toward our common goal.

[bob.rennips]

... 'Z' is different between sound and electromagnetic fields because they travel at different velocities.

...because sound is a compression wave and the size of the speaker doesn't need to be a 1/4 wave or some other fraction.

...you can't have one type of wave without the other.

...the results can be felt on the other end, long before the wave reaches the person at the other end.

...Instead of the speed of light in a conductor try the square of that number

...creating flow in this field will require working with it not against.

BEP. I think that has great  potential. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[BEP]

>>Pulled ramblings not belonging here.