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TPU: End Game...

Started by tao, July 09, 2007, 03:11:13 PM

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MarkSnoswell

Quote from: Grumpy on July 25, 2007, 10:47:23 AMLet us not forget that the electron, proton, and neuron all have magnetic moment and spin, but only the proton and electron have charge (leaving ions out for now).  So, gentlemen, if the spin produces the magnetic moment, what the hell causes the charge?

:)  -- easy, I have seen this in the spinor animations. The Neutron spins, but with no net handedness. It's the net spin direction that gives rise to charge. It's the spin that give rise to magnetism. This is why magnetism has momentum and charge has potential.

You cant have charge without spin but you can have spin without charge...

Another way of viewing the Neturon is that it rotates wherass the proton and electron spin. Thus the neutron has no charge as it has no view independant rotation handedness.

Yet another analogy: Protons and electrons are like (spherical 4D) helices -- positive and negative, wheras the neuton is like a (spherical 4D) circle. They all have spin but you cant atribute a handedness to the neutron.

cheers

mark s.

Dr Mark Snoswell.
President of the CGSociety www.cgsociety.org

Grumpy

Suppose you briefly "unbalance" the neutral charge of a neutron, wouldn't it try very hard to re-balance it's charge?

Since neutrons decay into a proton-electron pair when out of an atom, don't the proton and electron fields somehow sustain the neutron in this balanced state? 

Could one then say that unbalancing either of the three, effects the other?

So, if electrons are drifting as current and then suddenly stopped, a few neutrons get unbalanced and then what happens?

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

motofox

Here you might find an interesting read, to all thats followed the tpu from day 1. its about pro john searl and his s.e.g generator, the story goes that he had this amazing generator in the 60`s and 70`s, but was robbed and lost everything. hes now rebuilding his work and posting videos on youtube. Basically the australian guy we see and hear in one of the steven marks videos is brian collins, and its the same guy that worked with prof. searl and stole his work.

On this link is a breif explanation by searl about his machine, and he mentions steven mark. Goto the Information tab, then Documents, then you can click on the physics of the seg and igv. think its part 3
http://swallowcommand.com

MarkSnoswell

Quote from: Grumpy on July 30, 2007, 10:47:42 AM
Suppose you briefly "unbalance" the neutral charge of a neutron, wouldn't it try very hard to re-balance it's charge?

Since neutrons decay into a proton-electron pair when out of an atom, don't the proton and electron fields somehow sustain the neutron in this balanced state? 

Could one then say that unbalancing either of the three, effects the other?

So, if electrons are drifting as current and then suddenly stopped, a few neutrons get unbalanced and then what happens?

Interesting concept -- In a metal the neutrons are buried deep inside a relativly huge multilayer electron wave set and only the outer free electrons participate in current flow. This makes it highly unlikely that you could affect a neutron in a metal. However in the lighter elements the neutron is more exposed -- I have been thinkin go fdoing tests with a long column of water as a medium for longitudinal waves. If I do get around to this then a logical extension would be to do the test with heavy water (not dificult or too expensive to get thees days).
Dr Mark Snoswell.
President of the CGSociety www.cgsociety.org

Grumpy

I'll have to go back to the work of Dave Lowrance.  He was able to influence the neutron layer as he calls it.

He claims that the neutron is the source of diamagnetic effects and the strongest tempic (torsion) field effects.

http://magnetism.fateback.com/Protonics.htm

New Zealand Mirror site: http://magnetism.otc.co.nz/Protonics.htm

Can the neutron be influenced by fields of a certain "order"?
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards