Spinor resonance -- explanation for TPU like devices

[MarkSnoswell]

... OK , I cant take all the credit for this one as it's exactly what SM described in one of his texts... but I am going to claim the title of Helical Wave Accelerator because of the way it works...

The last post depicted a pure LWA -- Longitudinal Wave Accelerator. It's easier to make a HWA -- Helical Wave Accelerator....

In the HWA the transmission line spirals -- it's quite peculiar actually as the capacitive elements are from the interwinding capacitance and the inductive elements from the same wire -- so both magnetic and electrostatic waves are intertwined in a helical manner with two modes of resonance with either component dominating toroidally or poloidally.

I have rendered it with open windings for clarity -- in practice it should be wound more tightly to increase the intertwind capacitance... however breakdown voltage has to be considered.

Everything I said for the LWA in the last post applies to the HWA.

Except... when tuning the HWA primaries there will (should) be two fundamental frequencies (determined by the toroidal & poloidal diameters and inter winding capacitance). The lower resonance will have a lower Q and will be the traditional LC self resonance with the magnetic field dominating toroidally and the electric field dominating poloidally. We don?t want to tune to this mode... there will be a higher frequency mode with a higher Q that corresponds to predominantly longitudinal wave transmission -- with the electric field dominating toroidally and the magnetic field dominating to poloidally.

Oh - and the 3 phase works really well here. The Q's for both transverse and longitudinal dominant modes will be 10-100x or more than you would get for single phase systems -- at least that?s based on my experience with single vs. 3 phase resonance modes in the same systems... this means that finding the right frequency will be very exacting and the intertwining voltage could be extremely high at resonance -- especially if feedback is applied. Oh -- and even winding will be essential to maintain a constant wave velocity around the ring and between the phases.

OH -- and the primaries can be closed loops driven single ended. It's even closer to the LWA then.


Ha -- howz that ... on a roll here.  oops -- better attach the render.

cheers

mark s.

[dutchy1966]

As depicted the resonant waves circulating in the transmission line are symmetrical from their injection point. Some sort of directional bias would be required to trigger rotational acceleration of the signals in opposite directions == thus creating a vorex of electrical and magnetic fields around the central axis. Capacitive, magnetic, and mechanical directional bias controls are all possible, although it is anticipated that the vortexing action may be self starting (albeit slowly) in the presence of the Earth?s magnetic field alone. This would lead to opposite action in southern and northern hemispheres and to orientation (horizontal and vertical) sensitivity of operation.
Of interest is the performance when driven by sets of 3 different  duration pulse trains in the harmonic ratio?s of 1:2:4, 1:2:3, 1:2:5, 1:2:7, 1:3:7 etc. Pulse timing can also be adjusted to establish 3 phase rotation of the fundamental frequency around the transmission line.
Cheers

Mark.

Hi Mark,

I've been following your posts in the background and must say you come up with some good theories. (well explained and therefore very easy to follow!).
When reading one of your latest postst (as quoted) I was surprised to see some things that match so well with what SM said. You speak about the self starting vortex creation, possibly by the earths magnetic field influence. I firmly believe a vortex is involved in the tpu because of all the hints SM has given in that direction. You might want to look up my posts in the thread [the tpu as a magnetic vortex generator].
Also the difference in the northern and southern hemisphere is a major point which no other theorie incorporates. SM calls it "works in reverse" below the equator.
I wonder if your theory also addresses the fact that when turned upside down the tpu stops working. I tend to think that has to do with the rotation direction of the vortex.
Then on the point of the harmonic relationships. I find especially interesting the 1:2:7 relationship you mention. Why?  Well, SM basically given us the base (1st harmonic) and 2nd harmonic relationship. Still we were searching for the third component.
What we do know is that in one of his messages (the one where he is "making a new amplifier (=tpu control electronics)") that he had trouble with a harmonic at 35 khz. It was very strong and he decide to leave it in there. Then he goes on and tells us about his "output transformer (= tpu)" can go up to 245 khz. You probably already see where I'm going...... this is the seventh harmonic of the base 35 khz!!!

I'm not really sure you have read all that info of SM and therefore put it into your theory or that your theorie has just hit on some striking similarities with what SM has said. Anyway I think you last theories must be very close.....

Regards,

Robert

p.s. The H.W.A. is exactly how I picture the tpu from SM's descriptions. As you might know there has been a lot of discussion going on about the exact meaning of the descriptions given by him. The general opinion was (and probably still is) 3 segments (primaries) of 120 degrees.

[MarkSnoswell]

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I wonder if your theory also addresses the fact that when turned upside down the tpu stops working.

There is a point where you have to stop theorizing and just experiment. Left to the influence of the earths magnetic field (or even to the rotation of the earth) to start filed rotation you could postulate several mechanisms where it would not work side on or upside down. I have no definate answers -- all I can do is say that behaviour is possible.

I find especially interesting the 1:2:7 relationship you mention. Why?  Well, SM basically given us the base (1st harmonic) and 2nd harmonic relationship. Still we were searching for the third component.

None of these configurations are what I would design to drive a spinor -- if that is indeed part of the mechanism here. However when exciting a system that is susceptable to resonance with pulses you can get away with almost any configuration... and so all I can do is fall back onto crude observations of some of the harmonic relationships I see in simple sipnors -- there are lots of higher order harmonics and I feel sure that the fermions wont have simple spinor solutions (they will be much more complex). So again, this is an area where experimentation is required. I would try all of the sets of frequencies listed (wont take long) and a few others. There is also some support for using more or less components. However more would be redundant and perhaps not worth while for the small gains in effeciency verses design complications. Less would dramatically increace the precision of timing and design requirments and would dramatically reduce the likeleyhood of getting a working effect in practice.

I'm not really sure you have read all that info of SM

I have a vast library of material collected over the pst 10 years or so on a wide range of topics. I am not aware of anything I have missed in this area... but as I have said before, there is no rigerous evidence of any overunity device from anyone as yet. SM's information, like so many other sets of data, are questionable at best. This is why I will not atempt any "replications" unless I have determined a resonable theory as to why an effect may work so that I can design devices to test intelegentsy and compare experimental data against predicted behaviour.

p.s. The H.W.A. is exactly how I picture the tpu from SM's descriptions. As you might know there has been a lot of discussion going on about the exact meaning of the descriptions given by him. The general opinion was (and probably still is) 3 segments (primaries) of 120 degrees.

I agree -- this matches one of SM descriptions exactly... but more than that it has the benifits I mention of having the capacitive coupling etween the 3 phase windings. For wave propagation this is a crucial factor and makes it an entierly different design from one with 3 non-overlapping primary segments. Forget how it may work for a moment --from an energy density viewpoint three seperate primaries that do not overlap radiate much of their field energy into the surounding space -- particularly the interior. With the three fully overlapping windings the energy is largely constrained to the toroidal volume. This is what you want if it is where you are trying tio initiate an energy cascade.

cheers

mark.

[eldarion]

OK, I went ahead and tried a simple test (the one that was suggested near the beginning of this thread).

I know the theories have advanced significantly further now, but I figured I should share my (null) results anyway.

Attached are some pics of the apparatus.  The all-too-familiar Spartan-based programmable pulse generator, and the inner part of an RG8-U coax cable with about 1,800 turns of 30 guage magnet wire wound on top of it.

On the scope, the top trace is the input signal at one end of the winding and the bottom trace is the output at the other end.  Using a light bulb as a load, no voltage or current was developed across the collector.

I'll try building the latest version next (the HWA)...

Eldarion

[MarkSnoswell]

@Eldarion
Very neat winding.. and thanks for posting results -- all results, negative, positive, failures -- everything, with all details should be collected.

OK -- I wound not expect you to see a positive results with the coil the way you have wound it. I think the interwinding distance should be around the same distance as the radial distance to the collector.

A practical consideration is the winding of precise coils around narrow formers -- you have done an amazing job. However I really think larger diameters are going to make it much easier to see effects in. I know the larger coax is expensive and harder to get -- and it may not be the best in the long run. Alternatives include:
Copper tubing as collector and winding directly over that.
Copper tubing or large diameter wire inside a flexible insulating tube (make sure the material has a low dielectric loss!  Possibilities are  nylon, teflon and silicon).
multistrand wire should also be tested as a collector.

It may also be desirable to keep the radial capacitance lower than the interwinding capacitance ? this would make coax a bad choice. ? more tests need to be done.

You may need to use higher voltage pulses to see results in early tests with non-resonant and lossy systems. I would really encourage people to use a valve output stage in initial tests ? I will call a friend of mine who is a valve expert to design a simple, single valve drive stage. If there is anyone out there with simillar experience (BEP?) please step in with a valve output design everyone can use.

These basic tests are essential. Far from being boring they will yield a lot of practical experience and understanding that will be essential in construction of more complicated devices. I will be doing these myself as soon as I get time in the workshop.

Cheers
Mark.