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Tubes?

Started by Super God, July 18, 2007, 06:46:18 PM

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pese

Quote from: innovation_station on October 24, 2007, 08:37:38 AM
ok guys i know we all want a working ring

but in order to have a working ring we were instructed to use tubes now when sm says tubes does he mean freq gennys? i dont think so the amp maybe  but he specfictly mentions the 6bq7a tube as a phase invertor could the phase invertor be some kind of pre amp adding the phase effect to the mix i think that it is and from the digging i have done i would say that it only flips the phase by what ever deg we select it to and with this peice of equipment we should be able to create a phase locked loop!!

anyone got any ideas?!?!?!

ist

this would be the area i have dirrected the least of my thoughts so  it will need work to achive our goal  ;)
possible , some other source or utility is working in the tube , and will make oszillations to an output !
If it is so , that are forces , taht "weak" up , but not to understand with normal electronic (also special knowledges) in this "area".  I am only "feeling" this , hard to explain in words..
G.Pese

(i think an the "Barium" that is used on the cathodes in the valves ... perhaps some phsican here , can say mor to THIS element)?

Pese

Word "varium" replaced  to Baruum"  GP
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turbo

Quote from: innovation_station on October 24, 2007, 08:37:38 AM
ok guys i know we all want a working ring

but in order to have a working ring we were instructed to use tubes now when sm says tubes does he mean freq gennys? i dont think so the amp maybe  but he specfictly mentions the 6bq7a tube as a phase invertor could the phase invertor be some kind of pre amp adding the phase effect to the mix i think that it is and from the digging i have done i would say that it only flips the phase by what ever deg we select it to and with this peice of equipment we should be able to create a phase locked loop!!

anyone got any ideas?!?!?!

ist

this would be the area i have dirrected the least of my thoughts so  it will need work to achive our goal  ;)

Steven said he used three tube based generators, when he first striked those magical tones.

to me this means three independand stable tube oscillators.

can't be that easy can it?  :)

Marco.

Grumpy

I suspect that there are "entities" of an electrical nature that are passed by tubes and not by semiconductors.  These "entities" may be reflected or blocked by SS devices.

...or to be even more general: the constituents of an electric field are acted upon differently by tubes and SS devices.

Perhaps these "constituents" can be restored when using SS devices, via passive elements such as coils and caps.

As I recall, Eric Dollard did not use SS devices in his longitudinal wave demonstrations, so maybe SS devices don't respond to transverse electric waves and longitudinal electric waves the same way.

SM's mentioned tube amps after the tube freq gens, so all tubes up to the TPU.
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turbo

tubes have a much higher internal resistance and there simply are better resistant in high voltage setup, where the transistor imediatly fails or "flashes" due to it's compact and sensitive design.
also the coupling between the nodes in transistors is significantly "better" meaning it just preforms worse when (RF) interference is present.
you can see the diffrence simply by injecting a RF signal close or into  one of the nodes and see how it infuences it's behaviour in both types of setups.
The tubes simply keeps the signals far more cleaner and without too much distortion where the transistor will need additional circuitry to keep it "on it's track"

Marco.




innovation_station

ok guys

so i got my ss taste almost done my ss rack

so i guess i need to buld a all tube based rack now!!

well how the heck!!??

well i have not seen the effects of a ss genny in to a tube amp i saw tube to tube and posted in gk's thred but tonight i will hook up a comp ss genny to my tube amp and see if it acts diffrently than the tube genny and if it does then

hummm build another rack

ist
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