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Tubes?

Started by Super God, July 18, 2007, 06:46:18 PM

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innovation_station

Quote from: -[marco]- on October 24, 2007, 04:02:10 PM
if you are going to drive the tubes with ss generators, i suggest you put the sensitive circuitry inside a shielded metal box and use heavy shielded grounded signal carrying wires.

But it was made clear to us more then once, it is not how it was discoverd by the master aswell as it will be extremly difficult to get results, he even said it took him years to get the things to run on ss.

why not take the road exactly like he did and do things right?
shortcuts only seem to save some time...but do they? :)

Marco.



@ marco would you recomend 1 box for the 3 genns or indivigual boxes will it make a diffrence to the generators? or we want them sheilded from the ring that is all?

i know this is not the way sm discovered it but it is what i currently have to work with so i will try to use it but want to do it the right way  with them so

this is why i ask

ist
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

turbo

IS

If my understanding is correct you are going to try and drive tube amps with solid state signal generators.

Pherhaps the easiest way is to put all the sensitive circuitry on a few pieces of paper in one metal box, and use shieded signal carrying wires.
I said on a piece of paper so you will not have to exactly attach everything nicely and looking good in the box, because this simply does not matter, what matters is that it will work.

If this does not work you can also try the three circuits in three seperate boxes.( trying never hurts,unless you are not carefull) :)

If you are going to try and drive the coils with ss signal generators hooked up to mosfet amplifiers, i am affraid it will not work without the proper feedback to keep the signals clean.

I once was a purist too and everything had to be perfect or i would not try it...
Things have changed and to me it does not matter anymore how big the mess is, it just has to work.
Making it look fancy comes later.

If your setup does not work, you can always try to build tube based oscillators, for example a simple form uses one triode, three caps,a coil and a resistor.

I have chosen to use tubes only,and this will be my primary direction and i am going to walk the whole road...

Marco

innovation_station

@ marco

thank you for your responce

i will use a tube amp no fets right now  i will use ss gennys  i will put them in this box i made out of 2 cd rom drives i will put all freq generators and all there componments in this box knobs and all  then i will use coax cable for all out connections  ;)

if it wont ork then i will do 3 seprate boxes  if that wont work tubes i have no choise


i will try this first

cuz im here right now

william
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

innovation_station

time to cut the crap all tubes then progress to ss after a working tube unit  but for now  i will have all i need to advance almost to the finished tpu we all know that there will only be a few chips  in the finished unit and i bet a tuned crystal osc  to match the coil exactly  but that is way down the road  ;)

right now the rack

ist
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

turbo