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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

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December 29, 2007, 07:41:25 PM
Quote from: todd.hathaway on December 29, 2007, 08:17:42 AM

There are Bedini units in the U.S. that rotate a ferris wheel type of configuration as well as run 10+" fans while charging.....

Dear Todd and Nora,

I believe you may have direct contact with the developers of the Bedini units.  Please pass the following improvement information to them:

(1) Both the Bedini and the 225 HP motor have batteries.  The Bedini motor uses back EMF to recharge the batteries.  Thus the Input is relatively constant.  The 225 HP uses the battery as starting motor.  Once started, some of the Output power is fed back.  Thus the Input is variable.  That can be much higher than that provided by the battery.

(2) Some of the coils in the 225 HP can be used as drive coils, as pickup coils or both.  Program control is used.  Each ring can generate over 20 HP and the 225 HP was achieved by stacking 9 such rings.

(3) The source of energy is Electron Motion Energy.  To be more exact, both use the magnetic compenent of the electron motion energy.  If mounted with the axle horizontal, gravitational energy is also used. 

(4) More energy can be exracted (or Lead out) with higher speed of rotation, larger diameter, more and stronger coils and if gravitational energy is also used, more mass concentrated at the rim.

(5) If the Input is allowed to vary as the 225 HP motor, there must be a control mechanism to adjust Input with Output.  Otherwise, the motor will burnt.

Hope that helps.

Lawrence
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

todd.hathaway

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December 29, 2007, 08:17:59 PM
FYI - THESE ARE THE POSTS FROM THE 'ANGRY GROUP':


I am Angry - What is going on here?
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G'day all,

I am angry!

Today a link appeared in the Lawrence Tseung thread that got me going.

The link led to a project called ?The Potomac Energy Project?.

In their mission statement it says:

The Potomac Energy Project was the name coined to the decentralized effort throughout the independent research community to develop and distribute the most advanced energy technologies currently available today for review.  These technologies will streamline private and government efforts to reduce our dependency on foreign hydrocarbon resources, while also reducing the negative impact of global energy consumption on the environment.  These advanced energy technologies will also decentralize our nation?s vulnerable energy infrastructure.  Current trends make it clear that we are out of time to consider funding conventional alternative energy research.  Global oil production has peaked and is now in decline.  It is time to face the hard truths about energy.  The planet?s ecosystem cannot sustain continued hydrocarbon dependence, as outlined in the UN?s 2007 Global Environment Outlook Report.  Our nation MUST immediately shift its research emphasis to advanced alternative energy technologies if our way of life is to continue, while minimizing the likelihood of expanding regional wars to maintain adequate supplies of hydrocarbon resources.  Once funding is successfully distributed to these research projects, the technologies developed out of this initiative will monopolize what is becoming a trillion dollar alternative energy market. 

The link was published by Lawrence Tseung , whose name also appears on the same page. This is the same Lawrence who keeps telling us that his goal is to benefit the world. It would appear to be obvious that he is associated with this project in some way.

Whilst publishing idiotic theories and publishing fraudulent test results he has been going around behind the scenes to put people under contract with promises of money.(such as Chas Campbell for instance), and gathering them to his camp in an effort to monopolise any emerging new technologies.

This is totally against the spirit of this site, it is the very thing we are fighting!

Which raises the question: Who is this Lawrence Tseung and who is he really working for?

Every time I or anyone else who has proven his statements to be utter fiction he has accused us of being CIA agents set to destroy him.

If there is an agent of evil amongst us it is you Mr. Tseung.

If this was my forum I would toss him out and delete his thread.

Hans von Lieven

PS. The link is www.green-salon.com and appears in http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.1140/topicseen.html  post 1145


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@ Hans:

I could not agree more.  It not only goes against the spirit of this site, it is down right underhanded if you ask me.  So, all of the information you gave to Lawrence in an attempt to help him get on the right track, and the information I gave him on the high temperature bearings, and all of the other ideas and info he has received, will now all be SOLD back to us.  Nice.  I hope Stefan reads your topic here and looks into it a bit.  Now I understand where his hookers fit into the equation. We are all going to get F*cked!

Bill

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Please guys,

First, you two deserve gigantic medals of honor for not posting all through Christmas!!!!! I swear you could hear his little twisted brain cooking under the strain. It was hilarious. This guy is a psycho old man with delusions of grandeur. Come on, a cia agent posting his cell AND HOME numbers?! What do you do when you got nothing, and you want to stir up attention. Exactly. You bluff, you front. He cant even do that. The 4 legged stool experiment? Really? Anyway, I vote BOOT him, and thanks again guys,

Ben

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Hi all,

I'm Todd Hathaway from the other blog page.
We're not monopolizing the market, the technologies will do so naturally because the new technologies are better than the old ones.
If you or anyone else have techs worth considering, please feel free to contact me directly.
No technology or inventor will be left out in the cold.
I am a volunteer working to bring these technologies to the public.
Feel free to contact me directly at 301-320-3716 or 301-357-0431.
It's pretty clear I'm not Lawrence by answering the phone in Bethesda Maryland when he lives in Hong Kong, as I called him about a month ago using the phone number and he picked it up.  If you still think I'm him, then feel free to stop by my house in Bethesda, MD, and meet my wife and 8 month old son...
We have so little time left to bring these techs to market, so if you know of techs that need funding - either private or gov't - feel free to contact me directly.  If you don't want to work with me, then I could provide POC info to others who are in direct contact with prospective investors and/or government funding.
Let's start off by asking who you are willing to work with and trust.  If it is impossible to work with me in any way, then feel free to contact like-minded folks in the new energy congress - http://top100energy.com - it's a small community this whole adv energy tech clan, so someone you know probably knows someone I know.  Maybe we could start there.

Hope that helps, Todd
todd.hathaway@gmail.com or info@sci-us.org 

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G'day Todd,

Never mind the soothing words, when all is said and done, you are trying to bring as many emerging new technologies under one umbrella as you can, with the promise of funding.

That spells Monopoly Attempt to me.

And that is what we are fighting!

Hans von Lieven

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No one entity will control the techs - I just used the name Potomac Energy Project to encapsulate the effort all of us are involved with to make this happen.  The techs are scattered all over the world, so it will be impossible to monopolize the techs. 

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I know very well the Golden Rule of business.

He who has the Gold makes the Rules!

You promise the Gold. Nuff said.

Hans von Lieven

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Quote from: todd.hathaway on December 29, 2007, 09:26:21 PM
Hi all,

I'm Todd Hathaway from the other blog page.
We're not monopolizing the market, the technologies will do so naturally because the new technologies are better than the old ones.
If you or anyone else have techs worth considering, please feel free to contact me directly.
No technology or inventor will be left out in the cold.
I am a volunteer working to bring these technologies to the public.
Feel free to contact me directly at 301-320-3716 or 301-357-0431.
It's pretty clear I'm not Lawrence by answering the phone in Bethesda Maryland when he lives in Hong Kong, as I called him about a month ago using the phone number and he picked it up.  If you still think I'm him, then feel free to stop by my house in Bethesda, MD, and meet my wife and 8 month old son...
We have so little time left to bring these techs to market, so if you know of techs that need funding - either private or gov't - feel free to contact me directly.  If you don't want to work with me, then I could provide POC info to others who are in direct contact with prospective investors and/or government funding.
Let's start off by asking who you are willing to work with and trust.  If it is impossible to work with me in any way, then feel free to contact like-minded folks in the new energy congress - http://top100energy.com - it's a small community this whole adv energy tech clan, so someone you know probably knows someone I know.  Maybe we could start there.

Hope that helps, Todd
todd.hathaway@gmail.com or info@sci-us.org


Mr Hathaway:

Your project seemed to be an independent entity and not to be confused with official US Energy business. is this correct? Please help us understand what your relationship is with official US Government business? I can't imagine any official US Government project working together in a Forum like this and associating themselves with a crap head like that Lawrence Tseung!

What Lawrence needed is proper medication for schizo. illness and reality checks/ He does not need more confusion from you!

Sincerely
chrisC


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the answer is easy , open source it here , or f**** off 

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Quote from: b0rg13 on December 29, 2007, 10:13:14 PM
the answer is easy , open source it here , or f**** off


Exactly my sentiments b0rg   

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Quote from: b0rg13 on December 29, 2007, 10:13:14 PM
the answer is easy , open source it here , or f**** off


Exactly, why trying to make money, If you really want to help the planet stop trying making money from it and release it! 

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That whole thing is a joke, I think.  Todd is just as delusional as Lawrence.  First, what the hell was up with the doomsday prophesy?  How does that relate to anything.  Second, to quote:

"Current trends make it clear that we are out of time to consider funding conventional alternative energy research."

Say what?  They propose abandoning proven and improving technologies like solar, wind and hydro power in favor of funding as yet completely unproven "alternative" technologies, of which no one even has a working prototype that will produce the tiniest iota of energy.  If you want to work on alternative, great, but don't abandon what is working already until you have something better.

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Todd,


Aren't you supposed to be Major Todd Hathaway from the US Department of Defense, and isn't the person who co-signs your letters with Nora supposed to be Senator Nora Mead Brownell. Commissioner, Federal Energy Regulatory Commission? (Also known in the States as Nora Mead Brownout)

True or not???

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@ Todd:

"No one entity will control the techs."

No, and no one entity owns all of the oil on the planet either but it is still controlled by what is called a CARTEL!  A monopoly by any other name is still just that, a monopoly.

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Yep Bill,

It would appear these sleaze-bags are trying to form a cartel even before the technology is running because they can see progress in our ranks.

Control everything by financing (or promising to finance) some of it. What else is new?

Hans von Lieven

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There is one only solution.
Open Source    everything.
Money ist the toxic Part in all Community s.
If the Monopol of Energy supply is taken from the richest,then the world can take a free breath.

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Open source:
http://top100energy.com has a few listings
www.green-salon.com - contact the inventors directly:

Ken Rauen ? kmpr27 {at} yahoo.com ? Rauen Environmental Heat Engine
OPEN SOURCED, STILL NEEDS ~$10K FOR PROOF OF CONCEPT PROTOTYPE BUILD

Eddie Sines ? edsines {at} aol.com ? Potomac Energy Projects LLC
FINISHING UP PROOF OF CONCEPT PROTOTYPE - EQUIPMENT IS EXPENSIVE SO OUTSIDE FUNDING IS THE ONLY WAY TO PRODUCE THESE UNITS

Ken Rasmussen ? kr {at} commutefaster.com ? Advanced Hydroxy Gas Production
WILL NOT OPEN SOURCE THE TECH - CONTACT HIM TO DISCUSS OPEN SOURCEING IF YOU LIKE, BUT HE'S NOT INTERESTED IN PURSUING THAT ROUTE.

Bob Boyce ? bobboyceh2o {at} yahoo.com - Advanced Electrolysis Technology
PRIUS DELIVERED FOR OPEN SOURCE PROJECT - READY BY JUNE 2008 FOR PUBLIC DEMO.

Bob Dratch ? bob {at} bob-dratch.org ? Thorium Power Pack
NEEDS OUTSIDE FUNDING TO PURSUE PROJECT.  TALK TO HIM ABOUT OPEN SOURCING

David Yurth ? davidyurth {at} novainstituteoftechnology.com - Self-Recharging Electric Vehicle
SEEKING OUTSIDE FUNDING, SECURED SOME FUNDING ALREADY.  CONTACT HIM IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS OPEN SOURCING.

Ted Loder ? info {at} aero2012.com ? Advanced Energy Research Organization LLC
GO TO WWW.AERO2012.COM FOR MORE INFO - THE MOST DEDICATED GROUP TO ENSURING ADV ENERGY TECHS MAKES IT INTO THE PUBLIC FORUM.

Sterling Allan ? sterlingda {at} pureenergysystems.com - New Energy Congress
LOVES OPEN SOURCE APPROACH - SUGGEST YOU JOIN THE NEC IF OPEN SOURCE IS YOUR BAG.

Stephen Kaplan ?  stephenkap {at} gmail.com - New Energy Movement
SUPPORTER OF ADV ENERGY TECH DISCLOSURE VIA OPEN SOURCE OR ANY OTHER MEANS OF DISCLOSURE.

Nora Maccoby ? nora {at} maccoby.com - Energy Consensus Group
MY WIFE, INFO AVAILABLE ABOVE.  CONTACT US FOR MORE INFO.

Tom Valone ? iri {at} erols.com - Integrity Research Institute
ALSO SUPPORTS OPEN SOURCING; INVOLVED WITH A COUPLE PROJECTS; LIVES IN COLLEGE PARK NEAR UMD, WHERE HIS OFFICE IS LOCATED.

Lawrence Tseung ? ltseung {at} hotmail.com - Wang Shum Ho Electricity Generator
UNKNOWN - INVESTIGATING.  WE HAVE CHINESE CONTACTS WHO CAN CONTACT HIGH LEVEL CHINESE OFFICLAS TO DETERMINE WHETHER WANG SHUM HO'S CREDENTIALS ARE LEGIT AND IF SO, WHY.

Tom Bearden ? webmaster {at} cheniere.org ? Motionless Electromagnetic Generator
TRIP TO EUROPE WITH LESLIE PASTOR IN MAY TO CONFIRM OVERUNITY DEMO WITH NAUDIN IN FRANCE (TENTATIVE)

John/Gary Bedini ? info {at} energenx.com ? Bedini Motor/Generator
SELLING SMALL UNITS - ALREADY OPEN SOURCED, BUT NOT PRODUCING SUFFICIENT ENERGY OUTPUT TO CHANGE THE STATUS QUO.

David Wenbert ? david.wenbert {at} gmail.com ? Geovoltaic Energy Pump
ONLY NEEDS $5-10K TO OPEN SOURCE THIS TECH, BUT IT'S A LONG SHOT IN MY OPINION, AS THEIR R&D GROUP HAS NOT EVEN STARTED DEVELOPING THE FIRST PROTOTYPE.

Releasing the technology via open source?  OK, that's EXACTLY what we're doing via the New Energy Congress at http://top100energy.com, the web page I update every time the New Energy Congress has voted on the techs.
www.green-salon.com is also an independent volunteer effort designed to bring adv energy techs into the public forum, as well as government and private industry, compliments of Larry Jarboe who owns the property where inventors will present their techs on June 28-29 to the public.  You're welcome to attend.  You can contact Larry via his email posted online at www.green-salon.com.  It is up to those inventors presenting their techs what they want to do with their techs.  If you want them to open source the techs, then the best we can hope for is for them to say yes when you ask them to open source the techs.  Bob Boyce and Eddie Sines have done precisely that so far, as evidenced through their online activities.  I bought a Prius for Bob Boyce earlier this month, as he continues to open source his water car tech, with demos to follow next year.  I also dumped ~$100K into Eddie Sines's project since he and I first met in 2005 - info posted online at http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Potomac_Energy_Projects,_LLC - watch the videos and that's me presenting the information OPEN SOURCE.  Even if something is readily available, you have to secure the funding necessary to mass produce units for market...any suggestions on how to do that without involving those who have such funding?  That's right, open source, which we're doing in real time.  If inventors refuse to open source their techs, the only other option is to secure funding for those techs via government and private industry in the hope that they're not bought out and thrown on a shelf.  You blame the inventors for refusing to open source their techs.  That also upsets me to see inventors not releasing their techs, but I have no control over what people do with their techs.  Only the inventors can make the decision to open source a tech or not.  Again, www.green-salon.com is available to anyone who wants to support their research...posting these techs and supporting open sourcing makes it difficult to compartmentalize.  See also www.aero2012.com
If you think the adv energy techs will be controlled, that's difficult to do since the means of reproducing the techs I have been directly involved with are already open sourced.
Government and private industry can reproduce anything they want, just as the public can do so.  Based on my experiences and those of my colleagues in private industry, there are compartmentalized projects that have adv energy techs far superior to what's available open source.  The compartmentalized projects we hear about are already monopolizing those adv energy techs by refusing to release them to the public, so this initiative WILL break the stranglehold on keeping adv energy techs.  Go to www.aero2012.com for more info on that topic.  We will find a way to bring adv energy techs to the public ASAP.
Regarding my background, I am a Nuclear & Counterproliferation officer with the Army, volunteering for DoD while assigned to the Univ of Maryland to bring them adv energy techs if they're interested, while also working to improve energy practices on bases so the need for hydrocarbon fuels is reduced.  This effort helps secure independent study credit for a couple of the classes, which is why I can find time to volunteer.
At the Univ of Maryland I have to complete an M.S. degree in Nuclear Engineering by May 2009, which leaves a lot of time to do this since only a few courses remain for the degree, though I am also helping to establish the Energy Systems Engineering curriculum at UMD, and could obtain an M.S. degree in that program by 2009 if I keep a full load of courses each term including summer.  Through 2012, I will be assigned to the Armed Forces Radiological Research Institute as a research reactor operator, a research reactor (TRIGA) similar to the one at UMD.  Go to www.umd.edu, click on directories, type my name, send me an email to my University account if you want to confirm my involvement at the Univ of Maryland.  You can also contact my advisor, Dr. Al-Sheikhly at 301-405-5214.  Hiding in blogland isn't working - we have to bring everything into the public forum for review and reproduction.  If the Chinese POCs will not allow open sourcing, then the other option is to secure funding for full scale mass production.  It's up to China what China does with its technologies.  If they elect to collaborate, that is certainly preferred over not collaborating.
None of you have called any of the researchers listed online, my wife, or me to confirm any of this information, so far just posted negative stuff which has the effect of disempowering those buying into that negativity and the belief that nothing can be done to counteract the oil cartel and supporting infrastructure.  To date, none of you have mentioned anything that will help open source these techs.  You CAN make a difference, but only by working together in the open can the difference be enough to change the world for the better.
My wife Nora Maccoby's bio is available on www.maccoby.com/nora - a video of her is also available online at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5009439800283450862&hl=en.
Are any of you in the D.C. area?  Feel free to stop by our house to discuss - 2 Bay Tree Lane, Bethesda, Maryland.
The future predictions are presented to show how the indiginous people are working with us to bring about change and how little time we have left to make things happen.  We must find a way to bring these techs to the public ASAP, and friendly elements within government and private industry can help so the techs can be implemented on a large scale ASAP.  A small fraction of people are actively working to suppress these techs, though the overwhelming majority allow this to happen by doing nothing or just allowing the status quo to be maintained.
OK, STATE EXACTLY HOW YOU WOULD BRING ADV ENERGY TECHS TO MARKET, THEN OUTLINE WHAT ACTIONS WE CAN TAKE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN!
The conclusions drawn based on your posts to date suggest that evil people control everything and good people can't do anything to overcome the evil...well, your thinking creates your destiny.  Our group has chosen to believe that the future can be changed if we take action to manifest the changes we want to have happen.

Nora and I are doing a great deal to open source adv energy techs, and have proven it by directly funding open source projects.  If you are stating that techs should never be funded by government or private industry, then how will they ever be mass produced in a timely manner.  By giving the tech to the public with enough info to produce?  OK, then we're on the same page of music in that respect.  For those techs that are not open sourced, the only other option is to seek funding for those projects; otherwise, they die on the vine...not a very effective approach to bringing those techs to market in a timely manner.  If you want to fund open source projects, good luck finding someone with money to do that.  We have found a select few, and those projects will be brought to the public next year if all goes well.  If that doesn't happen, we're no worse off then we are now.  Rather than complain, what are YOUR solutions?

STATE EXACTLY HOW YOU WOULD BRING ADV ENERGY TECHS TO MARKET, THEN OUTLINE WHAT ACTIONS WE CAN TAKE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN!  THEN MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!

Todd & Nora 


M@rcel

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December 30, 2007, 04:04:07 PM
I really hope that Lawrence is still willing to share here.  ::)

Pirate88179

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December 30, 2007, 05:04:44 PM
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See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

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December 30, 2007, 05:22:51 PM
Quote from: todd.hathaway on December 29, 2007, 08:17:59 PM
FYI - THESE ARE THE POSTS FROM THE 'ANGRY GROUP':


I am Angry - What is going on here?
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G'day all,

I am angry!

Today a link appeared in the Lawrence Tseung thread that got me going...............................

Todd & Nora 




HI Todd
Is this the Proof that you are going to spy out the Members of this Board.?
helmut
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