The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[Pirate88179]

A Bessler wheel will work as long as you use the Lee-Tseung pulses applied at the exact right time with the exact correct impulse energy.  Of course, we will ignore the energy used by creating these pulses and not include that in our calculations on the output energy.  So, therefore, the wheel will produce OU.

Bill

[ltseung888]

After reviewing the tutor site, it seems appropriate to divide the forces up into an x/y/z system and then calculating individual forces. It looks to me then, slide 12 is completely correct, and I feel I am ready to move on to the next slide(s).

I'm still bothered by distance traveled in arc.....

Still ready for more slides, here.   

Dear SeanTheLight,

I am glad that you reviewed the tutor site.  In particular, focus on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_work

In situations where the force changes over time, and/or the path deviates from a straight line, equation (1) is not directly applicable. However, under mild restrictions, it is possible to divide the motion into small steps, such that the force and motion are well approximated as being constant for each step, and then to express the overall work as the sum over these steps. This is formalized by the following line integral, which can be taken as a rather general definition of work: (equation 3)

When we were at Tsinghua University, we used line integrals in the discussion with some Professors and Research Students.  However, I do not plan to go into that kind of depth here.  We did not use line integrals at the Shenzhen University seminar and it was well received.

The key concept in Slide 12 was the analysis of the three forces; the vertical and horizontal displacements; and the resultant work done.  Now Miss. Forever Yuen has added the negative work discussions to make the picture more complete. 

Slide 12 showed that work done by the horizontal force is definitely NOT equal to the vertical work done by the tension in the string.  The approximation showed that 2 parts of horizontal energy Lead Out 1 part of vertical energy.  That Physics Concept does not need line integrals to confirm.  The line integral calculation just make the approximation more accurate.  (I shall re-discuss the difference of this first Lee-Tseung pull and the ideal Lee-Tseung pull if there is enough interest.  The ideal Lee-Tseung pull does incorporate the technique of the line integral more.)

I am glad that you are ready to examine the other slides.  Please be patient.  Wait for others.  Some are waiting for the possible reply by Prof. Jian Lu.

[chrisC]

..... Of course, we will ignore the energy used by creating these pulses and not include that in our calculations on the output energy.  So, therefore, the wheel will produce OU.

Bill

That is exactly what the 'problem' is. Almost any machinery can be OU if you keep pulsing it and if you don't include the energy in the pulses, we can call the OU phenomenon anything, including  the Bill-Pirate theory!

Or we can call the other theory, the deluded Lee-Tseung Theory of miscounts

cheers
chrisC

[utilitarian]

As soon as Tseung started arguing that the string tension somehow "does work", even though it does not compress or shorten in any way, I think it is pretty clear that he is utterly delusional.  The fact that he refuses to conduct actual experiments on actual pendulums also speaks volumes.  And the multiple personalities should give you a clue.  I think he actually started a post once as Top Gun, leading in with something like "I know Tseung is busy, so I shall answer......"

Guys, there is no winning this.  The Internet forum is particularly bad for arguing with insane people.  Why?  Because you can never get them to shut up.  They ignore your valid criticisms and just keep posting their delusional rantings until the bitter end.

I am as guilty as anyone, but if you want to prove Tseung wrong, the best thing to do, I think, is just stop posting.  Then he can just talk with Top Gun and Forever Young, and the silence of the forum will be a testament to the idiocy of his theory.

That is all.  Over and out.

[chrisC]

As soon as Tseung started arguing that the string tension somehow "does work", even though it does not compress or shorten in any way, I think it is pretty clear that he is utterly delusional.  The fact that he refuses to conduct actual experiments on actual pendulums also speaks volumes.  And the multiple personalities should give you a clue.  I think he actually started a post once as Top Gun, leading in with something like "I know Tseung is busy, so I shall answer......"

Guys, there is no winning this.  The Internet forum is particularly bad for arguing with insane people.  Why?  Because you can never get them to shut up.  They ignore your valid criticisms and just keep posting their delusional rantings until the bitter end.

I am as guilty as anyone, but if you want to prove Tseung wrong, the best thing to do, I think, is just stop posting.  Then he can just talk with Top Gun and Forever Young, and the silence of the forum will be a testament to the idiocy of his theory.

That is all.  Over and out.

This thread needs to be relabeled "JUNK SCIENCE"

cheers
chrrisC