The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[Top Gun]

And Mr. top gun, the simple fact is if you are experincing a new phenomenon, then it has to be validated by numerous experimental values. Then the existing theory is adjusted accordingly. You can not prove something new from from something old that does not account for this new change.
That is why all the inspectors asked you to show the induction of this "lead out gravity" as no known theory knows about it. You showing it with existing mechanics is never going to work and that is a simple logic.
What you have to do is simple. Run this pendulum with your style, produce verifiable results. Show without doubt that there is indeed an extra energy lead out by gravity. People will accept it and change the existing theory accordingly. The mistake you are making is that you are trying to prove it without the basis of experiments and actual values and you are trying to misuse existing system. What will happen is that you will reduce yourself to academic discussions with some amateurs like me and real people won't even look at it!
Think about it.

Dear Kul-ash,

Do not think that you are an amateur and thus useless.  I know Mr. Tseung very well by now.  He uses this forum to pass time.  He has absolute confidence in his Lee-Tseung theory.  I can testify that he and Lee and Wang went to Tsinghua University and got great academic acceptance.  He and Lee made the mistake of taking CIA or the Like there.  Mr. Tseung was then regarded as an USA spy and got into much trouble.

Please do not feel bad that you cannot win the HK$10,000.  Nobody could.  There cannot be anything wrong with the Tseung Physics and Mathematics.  They passed the Tsinghua University test (the equivalent of MIT in USA).  They recently presented at Shenzhen University.  I know that there is much activity going on to develop products. 

Mr. Tseung is immune to insults because the physics and mathematics cannot be wrong.  It was like Galileo knowing that the Earth was round.  No amount of pressure could change that scientific fact.

I back him up 100% because I examined and re-examined every assumption, every term and every equation.  He did not use or create any new Physics.  He just applied the accepted Physics to analyze force, displacement, work and energy on a simple pendulum with an external force.

[Kul_ash]

And Mr. top gun, the simple fact is if you are experincing a new phenomenon, then it has to be validated by numerous experimental values. Then the existing theory is adjusted accordingly. You can not prove something new from from something old that does not account for this new change.
That is why all the inspectors asked you to show the induction of this "lead out gravity" as no known theory knows about it. You showing it with existing mechanics is never going to work and that is a simple logic.
What you have to do is simple. Run this pendulum with your style, produce verifiable results. Show without doubt that there is indeed an extra energy lead out by gravity. People will accept it and change the existing theory accordingly. The mistake you are making is that you are trying to prove it without the basis of experiments and actual values and you are trying to misuse existing system. What will happen is that you will reduce yourself to academic discussions with some amateurs like me and real people won't even look at it!
Think about it.

Dear Kul-ash,

Do not think that you are an amateur and thus useless.  I know Mr. Tseung very well by now.  He uses this forum to pass time.  He has absolute confidence in his Lee-Tseung theory.  I can testify that he and Lee and Wang went to Tsinghua University and got great academic acceptance.  He and Lee made the mistake of taking CIA or the Like there.  Mr. Tseung was then regarded as an USA spy and got into much trouble.

Please do not feel bad that you cannot win the HK$10,000.  Nobody could.  There cannot be anything wrong with the Tseung Physics and Mathematics.  They passed the Tsinghua University test (the equivalent of MIT in USA).  They recently presented at Shenzhen University.  I know that there is much activity going on to develop products. 

Mr. Tseung is immune to insults because the physics and mathematics cannot be wrong.  It was like Galileo knowing that the Earth was round.  No amount of pressure could change that scientific fact.

I back him up 100% because I examined and re-examined every assumption, every term and every equation.  He did not use or create any new Physics.  He just applied the accepted Physics to analyze force, displacement, work and energy on a simple pendulum with an external force.

That is not the point! The point is you are trying to prove something new with something that does not understand your new concept. When you are proposing new theory, how could you use the theory that does not allow you to input additional energy?
Any way, I am hoping to get answer from you about the splitting forces that I mentioned in the earlier post. Please let me know what you think about what I said on your statement.
Any way, I am sure that no normal physics or mathematics will allow you to "create" additional energy! And practically also, still after so many claims from so many people, no one has seen any such energy generated.
No body will accept that gravity is providing you force to overcome itself. As I told you the analysis I have done is very superficial.
You comparing him with Gallileo is out of my imagination. Gallelio was opposed on the basis of relegiuos belive. As there was not scientific formulation, even though after seeing things working according to his principles, the religious people purposely hunted him down. In this case, 99.99% of the scientific community itself is opposing this theory and that is because no body have ever seen this so called lead out effect. You said it has passes test in Tinshuha university. What is that test, can you explain? Did you mean to say that they accepted your "theory"? When some one like me clearly see that there is misuse of applied force, do you really think this theory is full proof?
Lets continue this technicald debate and I am pretty sure that I myself can show you problems in theory. And I am not behind USD 1300. lol.

[Top Gun]

The induced change in already existing internal forces is called as restoring force. The work is always done by external force and not by internal forces in the system.

In you case, you are denying that horizontal force is responsible for change in the tension of the string and you are claiming that it is "lead out gravity" which is doing that. By all means, this is not acceptable to me and now you said it yourself. In other words, you supply energy externally and it does the required work and that is the law of conservation of energy. You are claiming that this energy is coming "from outside" the system. How, that is you are trying to prove it based on incorrect assumptions..

Dear Kul_ash,

Sorry I missed this post.  I love drawing simple diagrams.  In the following pendulum11.jpg, I show the simple system of two 1,000 unit weights perfectly balanced in position A. 

I then applied an external 1 unit force on the RHS.  Assuming no friction, the weights will move to position C.

If I focus on the gain in potential energy on the LHS alone, I get a value of 1,000 x h units.  But the external work I do is only 1 x h units. 

The weight on the RHS is regarded as an internal force on such a system.

In my terminology, I have just used 1 x h units of energy to Lead Out 1,000 x h units of energy.  If I cut the string and allow the LHS weight to fall back to its original position, it can do 1,000 x h units of work.  Remember, I only supplied 1 x h units of energy or work!

I hope this example does not confuse you more.  Let us have more fun.

[Kul_ash]

The induced change in already existing internal forces is called as restoring force. The work is always done by external force and not by internal forces in the system.

In you case, you are denying that horizontal force is responsible for change in the tension of the string and you are claiming that it is "lead out gravity" which is doing that. By all means, this is not acceptable to me and now you said it yourself. In other words, you supply energy externally and it does the required work and that is the law of conservation of energy. You are claiming that this energy is coming "from outside" the system. How, that is you are trying to prove it based on incorrect assumptions..

Dear Kul_ash,

Sorry I missed this post.  I love drawing simple diagrams.  In the following pendulum11.jpg, I show the simple system of two 1,000 unit weights perfectly balanced in position A. 

I then applied an external 1 unit force on the RHS.  Assuming no friction, the weights will move to position C.

If I focus on the gain in potential energy on the LHS alone, I get a value of 1,000 x h units.  But the external work I do is only 1 x h units. 

The weight on the RHS is regarded as an internal force on such a system.

In my terminology, I have just used 1 x h units of energy to Lead Out 1,000 x h units of energy.  If I cut the string and allow the LHS weight to fall back to its original position, it can do 1,000 x h units of work.  Remember, I only supplied 1 x h units of energy or work!

I hope this example does not confuse you more.  Let us have more fun.

Lol. So? You want to tell me you have designed over unit machine here? wow. Congratulations! Thats all I can say. 

[chrisC]

Dear Kul-ash,

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Please do not feel bad that you cannot win the HK$10,000.  Nobody could.  There cannot be anything wrong with the Tseung Physics and Mathematics.  They passed the Tsinghua University test (the equivalent of MIT in USA).  They recently presented at Shenzhen University. 

Mr Tseung:

Hahaha! What an idiot!
If you really dicovered this unbelievable new Physics, would you not think that Tsinghua University big shots will make their biggest announcements to equate Mr. tseung as the new Einstein?

Did we missed those announcements? Did any of their Professors openly supported you in any scientific forums? Any scientific publications? Or or these beliefs only between your two ears? It's all your own hot air,smoke and altered egos in this forum.

Instead, you now offer 'O' Level students the chance to win your delusional prize! If you have any merits, the world will give you the Nobel prize! Instead, you continue to make a fool of yourself. You should spend more time helping disadvantaged kids in your retirement. Instead you go on about this BS. So very sad.

From the beginning I begged you to see a doctor and get some medication. I even suggested you watch the movie "The beautiful mind". The scientist in the movie actually was a brilliant mathematician. You, Mr. tseung, can't even understand pre-'O' level physics. That's the truth. Sometimes, I think you live in a different world. This really is planet Earth.

That's all I have to say today.

cheers
chrisC