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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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utilitarian

Quote from: ltseung888 on October 08, 2009, 08:45:54 PM
Focusing on the Explanation of prolonged swinging time

From the commercially available ROMP and our own experiments, if the swinging time of the magnetic pendulum is x units with no external magnets, this swinging time can increase significantly with external magnets.

What is the scientific explanation of this phenomenon?

The added magnets did not move and hence did not do work.  Does that mean that they could not impart energy to the magnetic pendulum?  If the answer is negative and they do impart energy to the moving magnetic pendulum, what is the exact mechanism and traditional scientific explanation?  Can we apply the theory that “magnetic energy” is lead-out and enters the pendulum system?

The experiment is easy to set up and repeat (or the Romp can be bought for US$15).  Will any of the debunkers in this Forum take the time to do such an experiment?  Or would they just continue their pointless insults?

Surely a "Top Gun" like you did not make the elementary physics mistake of conlcuding that the magnets provide energy merely because the bob swings for a longer period of time.

You see, what can happen is that the magnets initially dampen the amplitude the swing by bouncing it around from magnet to magnet, but they make up for it by allowing the pendulum to move for a longer time period.  But if you add up the kinetic/potential energy swaps both with and without magnets, you will find they are exactly equal, accounting for friction.

If this is hard for you to grasp, imagine that instead of a magnet, you have a matchstick in the way of the falling bob.  Let's say that unfettered, a bob would swing for 2 minutes.  But you let go of the bob and boom, it hits the matchstick.  The matchstick is damaged, but supports the bob for about 10 minutes, slowly (oh so slowly) giving way unti it cracks, snaps in two, and allows the bob to continue to fall and finish its oscillations two minutes or so after that.

So gee, with the matchstick, the bob took about 10 minutes longer to finish its movement.  Does the matchstick create any energy?  No.

The purpose of the ROMP is to demonstrate chaotic movement, not to show energy gain through use of permanent magnets.

Pirate88179

@ Ultilitarian:

That is exactly correct.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

chrisC

Quote from: ltseung888 on October 08, 2009, 08:45:54 PM
Focusing on the Explanation of prolonged swinging time


What is the scientific explanation of this phenomenon?

T

Elementary my dear Lawrence.... you need to study your 'O' Level Physics instead of making a fool of yourself on this forum.

cheers
chrisC

Paul-R

Quote from: ltseung888 on October 08, 2009, 08:45:54 PM
Focusing on the Explanation of prolonged swinging time
The experiment is easy to set up and repeat (or the Romp can be bought for US$15).  Will any of the debunkers in this Forum take the time to do such an experiment?  Or would they just continue their pointless insults?
They will ask their employers, and do what they say.

ltseung888

The Scientific Way of Discussion

When a certain phenomenon is observed, a scientist should list all possible explanations. 

The Internet is a great place as all can express their points of view.

There is no need to insult others.

One possible explanation of why a magnetic pendulum can swing much longer in the presence of properly placed external magnets is that additional energy can be Lead-Out.  The movement of the magnetic bob disturbs the static magnetic field.  The possibility of obtaining energy from a changing magnetic field is within the rim of existing Physical Laws.

Let others do the same experiment and advance their theories.

Lawrence Tseung
Director
Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation Limited
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.