The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[Pirate88179]

@ Gaby et al:

I think the point here is this.  When someone CLAIMS to have discovered a FANTASTIC new energy device on a forum such as this, I believe, yes, it is my opinion, that the burden of proof is on the CLAIMER.  For example, if I claimed that my earth battery was powering 1,000 LEDs and told everyone how fantastic that is I should expect at least someone to ask for some kind of proof, photos, video, etc.  When I do NOT provide such and continue to make my claims I think I should very well expect to come under some degree of ridicule.  This is prudent in my opinion.  The more fantastic the claim, the more detailed analysis and full disclosure is required for it.  Otherwise, what is the point of being on here in the first place?  If I am working on something I never intended to share with everyone here, than why would I share just a bit here and there and offer no proof of an actual working device?

Lawrence has said a few times that he is not an experimenter but a theoretician.  That's fine with me as far as that goes.  But, as such, he should not make claims over and over again that can not be backed up with experimentations and replications by many.  I have no problem with anyone that appears to have a breakthrough that seems to be at odds with accepted present scientific knowledge.  Any giant leap will probably have to do so.  But again, to continue to claim such a leap without any efforts at supplying evidence to back it up will continue to get my sarcastic replies.  This is what keeps us all honest (to a point ) on here. 

Gaby, you "claim" that you have done all of Lawrence's experiments and they all work even better than he said they would.  Great.  Good for you.  Why not help Lawrence out by posting photos, video, etc of these replications that work so well?  Talk is cheap, we all know that.

My last point is this.  I know there are some people on this forum, and forums everywhere, that you can supply with plans, replications, videos, photos, etc. and they would still not be satisfied that it was not faked.  I don't know what to say to those people.  I am not one of them.  They are counterproductive to all of our efforts, as are those that make outlandish "scientific" claims with no effort to support them or back them up.  Our work continues.  Thank you.

Bill

[hansvonlieven]

What do you say to a guy who wants to explain to a retired engineer how a one way valve works and what it looks like?

I think we should appoint Lawrence as the Court Jester of the overunity forum.

He could have his own thread and we could all have a bit of fun and comedy.

But what to call it?

............hmmmmmmmmm.....

Oh I got it, we could call it:

The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Hans von Lieven

[chrisC]

What do you say to a guy who wants to explain to a retired engineer how a one way valve works and what it looks like?

I think we should appoint Lawrence as the Court Jester of the overunity forum.

He could have his own thread and we could all have a bit of fun and comedy.

But what to call it?

............hmmmmmmmmm.....

Oh I got it, we could call it:

The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Hans von Lieven

How about the LEE-TSEUNG COMEDY SHOW?

cheers
chrisC

[ltseung888]

What do you say to a guy who wants to explain to a retired engineer how a one way valve works and what it looks like?

Hans von Lieven

Hans,

When would you do the experiment as shown on 640 with the one-way valves?  If you do not want to climb 34 floors, I am quite happy to accept 4.

Do the experiment before you accuse a top scientist as fraud.

If you are struggling with how to save US$10, ask your CIA or the Like friends.  You might have built devices transporting grains.  However, you have not done this particular experiment with thin tubes and cheap one-way valves transporting air+water.  

Have you studied 643 and 758 yet?  I shall wait for a confirmed dinner before providing more education.

@gaby,

Do not worry about people attacking me.  I am having fun.  You know that the earth is round.  Hundreds of prests, bishops and the Pope himself may gather millions of faithfuls to denounce it.  Who will win out in the end.

Lawrence Tseung
Fraud? From one who did the experiment or from one who dreamed in his armchair?

[Pirate88179]

Lawrence:

I don't think anyone here is attacking you...well, ok, maybe some but for the most part, I think they are attacking your ideas and theories.  You keep saying that you did the experiment and all we get to see is a picture of a pump or a chair or a valve.  This was one of my problems with Newman.  In one of his videos he said.."And, if you were to go outside right now and look at the electric meter, it would not be spinning."  Great!  This is video, show us the electric meter not spinning.  Afterall, he makes videos for crying out loud.  This is what I feel we are getting from you.  I mean no personal offense.  Don't show us photos of pumps or valves or chairs...show us from step one through step...whatever, in a video, or at least a pictorial series that walks us through the experiment.  Show us the "wet" tissue 34 floors up.  I guess this is like show and tell and right now, and all along, you have been telling with no real showing. Others here may agree with me or not, I don't really care.  I am not alone here in saying that we want your ideas to be real, that is why we are here and do what we do.  Check out my Earth Battery experiments video.  While this is no prize winning video to be sure, I attempted to walk people through the process as if they were all standing there with me.  Yes, I stammered a bit and misstated a few things and the video quality was not great, but, at least people could see what I did, and how I did it and could easily replicate what I did.  And, more importantly, possibly do something better.  That is what I think this site is all about.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq9ZKDKDclY

I believe there are a lot of intelligent, well educated, dedicated experimenters here that would love to dive in and examine your theories.  They are not going to waste their time when all they get in response to their valid questions are responses like "you are not a scientist, you can't possibly understand" etc. "Here is a picture of a one way valve," etc.  I don't think you are a bad guy, possibly a little misguided, but if you document your ideas as I have suggested, a lot of experiments will take place all over the world that will either prove your ideas or not. Thanks for listening.  Give my best to Forever.

Bill