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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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utilitarian

Quote from: ltseung888 on October 24, 2008, 07:03:04 AM
Received the call from Wang Shenhe that his Company is planning earlier disclosure because of the present World-wide Financial Crisis.

So "in a few months" again, right?

Whatever happened putting the thing for sale right after the Olympics?  I do not know why you promise these deadlines that these people never meet.  You may as well say "in a few decades", because then you would not have to move the deadline so often.

gaby de wilde

Very impressive work from Professor Tseung here.

Let me try answer some of the rethoric first.

Quote from: utilitarian on October 20, 2008, 09:39:48 PM
This is hardcore socialism.
You make it sound like being a-social is something admirable. It's not.
Quote from: utilitarian on October 21, 2008, 06:01:26 AM
You can also look at the former Soviet Union for many examples of sure-lose government-run businesses.
I'm looking at you as an example of "problem focused thinking", where are your solutions?

http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTGLOBALMONITORING2006/Resources/Poverty_Map.jpg

Specially India has much to learn from Russia.

Quote from: utilitarian on October 21, 2008, 06:01:26 AMThe obvious solution is to pass stronger laws and penalize.

The opposite of social is of course a police state.

Quote from: utilitarian on October 21, 2008, 09:08:33 AM
Private industry thrives while government controlled entities stagnate.  The desire to make a profit has an interesting consequence - it causes people to care.

Exploitation requires lack of care. The desire to make a profit is an act of greed, it has nothing to do with caring about anything.

The opposite of social is asocial and the opposite of clean energy is dirty energy. Clean energy and responsible use of resources will preserve our planet and keep it fit to live on. Dirty energy and irresponsible profiteering is already killing everyone.

Not "maybe", oxygen levels have declined dramatically in the last 50 years, not surprisingly they follow the same curve as the economy.

We can grow industrial hemp in all places where the ground isn't fertile, where the air is polluted and in all deserts. Africa is available to draw carbon from the air and make all the oxygen this planet needs. This is not going to happen by the effort of greedy profiteers.

Communism, environmentalism and socialism are just words representing a method. Just like perpetual motion represents an area of research. In your world view all those words mean something that cant work. Apparently you think of human life and the environment as a free lunch that never ends. But people are dieing at massive rates, the world is dieing as a whole. Perhaps you should stop crying and start pedaling.

Quote from: chrisC on October 21, 2008, 04:50:28 PMNotice how the thread has moved from trying to prove his technical mumbo-jumbo to solving human issues and financial gloom and doom.
This has always been the topic, you just didn't pay attention. We are not trying to prove anything, we are trying to find a solution for the global death problem. Hydrogen-carbon is not a free lunch.
Quote from: chrisC on October 23, 2008, 07:43:30 PM
Who needs real scientists?
Looking at the Large Hadron Collider I tend to think I really don't need scientists. The only purpose they serve is to convince people like you who worship their opinion. If some one says perpetual motion they stick their nose in the wind and walk away. After walking away they will claim it didn't work. You cant have it both ways you cant, you can either look and see it doesn't work or you can stick your nose in the air and walk away. You say you want scientists to come up with new energy resources, but you damn well know they will be rejected by their own establishment in the most disrespectful ways. This here is not a scientific document, it is written for you, so that you can find the real scientists. Clean nuclear energy isn't as hard as you like to think it is.

http://knol.google.com/k/gaby-de-wilde/yull-brown/1yrf1mzjtxzk5/9

I suggest you show us you are not the illiterate cry baby you have us believe you are. There is no such thing as proof by ego.
QuoteAnyone with lack of 'O' level physics can claim anything. I can claim to be God. Does that make me God?
Yes, the term God is up to you to interpretate. If you want to think you are God yourself no one can deny you this.

Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 21, 2008, 03:15:45 PM
Quote from the E-book:
Introduction by the Author â€" Lawrence C. N. Tseung

This is not an ordinary book.  It is not meant to be read.  It is meant to be studied.  It contains controversial scientific material.  It contains economic concepts which will change the wealth-generating process of the world.  The reader is encouraged to discuss the contents and share his thoughts with his friends and via the internet.

This book has complete credibility because it did not go on sale before a working Lead-Out-Energy device had been publicly announced and demonstrated world-wide.  This device is the Wang 5 kW electrical generator or the larger electrical generator which is suitable for commercial substation use.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Where is the generator then Lawrence? Where is the public announcement and the world-wide demonstration?
Maybe they missed Australia somehow. Perhaps this is not not surprising since Australia was only recently discovered. They should update their maps in China.

Hans von Lieven


Aboriginals are real people you know? Anyway, the Australian researchers are doing great work Hans, how could you have missed it?

http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=l1vFyhRHd7k etc

Quote from: critic on October 20, 2008, 06:22:21 PM
On page 121 of the Innovation Book, the argument for a Government to create money for infrastructure projects was presented:

China used the above strategy very well.  Its sustained GDP growth of around 10% is no accident.  The ‘Bible of the Nine Yin’ (How to win the global economic war) has its place in history.  The Chinese version is in http://www.energyfromair.com/thebook.htm.  The new US president should get someone to translate it and circulate it to all his economic decision makers.


I thought it was facinating to see how the economic game was played out. Giving the westernworld everything we wanted the way China did made us lazy and careless. China will just give us everything, we don't have to work, all we have to do is count the money? no?

A bit like the dot com bubble depended on new enterpeneurs making startup investments.

Entertainment! Entertainment! Entertainment is what we want! Lets all forget about the real world and focus on the Entertainment! Stop using hydrogen-carbon? But.. but... I need it for my SUV! Alternatives are unthinkable, how will I go to the MacDonald's without it? See? Nuf said! We need hydrogen-carbon! Using hydrogen-oxygen is just a weird idea! It's dangerous! Clean nuclear energy is just crazy, nuclear energy is dangerous! The wind is also dangerous, and solar ohhh that really is a disruptive technology Not entertaining at all. Move on now, nothing to see here for you.

I wonder what is on the Tee Vee..... hahahaha

lol, people here care about footbal, TV soap and teletubbies. It's to cry about.... It seems people need to suffer to be able to care, I suffer from all this stupidity.

So lets do something about it.

I don't think magnets or gravity can replace our current needs faster than they can be implemented. Windmills and solar are already far behind on schedule.

So lets use radiolysis, thermolysis, flash photolysis and electrolysis at the same time and create a nuclear reaction burning off the radiation while generating it. This should be a suitable solution for all combustion processes.

http://knol.google.com/k/gaby-de-wilde/water-fueled-car/1yrf1mzjtxzk5/2

Subterranean biomes and pistol shrimps show us that it is clearly possible. Those biological processes did make it into the scientific literature. So there is no way for petroleum sponsored scientists to lie their way out of this.

Tell me Laurence, what would it cost to build a prototype of this.

http://wind-car.go-here.nl

Thanks,

-Gaby de Wilde
blog  | papers | tech | inventors  | video

chrisC

Quote from: Devil on October 24, 2008, 11:20:03 AM
....
  Obama does not have the political background to ask the American Citizens to take the bitter pills.   Obama cannot force the US Military to release the top secret lead-out-energy and flying saucer technologies.
...

Tseung does not have the balls to admit he's just a snake oil merchant!


cheers
chrisC

gaby de wilde

Quote from: chrisC on October 21, 2008, 04:50:28 PMNotice how the thread has moved from trying to prove his technical mumbo-jumbo to solving human issues and financial gloom and doom.
This has always been the topic, you just didn't pay attention. We are not trying to prove anything, we are trying to find a solution for the global death problem. Hydrogen-carbon is not a free lunch.
Quote from: chrisC on October 23, 2008, 07:43:30 PM
Who needs real scientists?
Looking at the Large Hadron Collider I tend to think I really don't need scientists. The only purpose they serve is to convince people like you who worship their opinion. If some one says perpetual motion they stick their nose in the wind and walk away. After walking away they will claim it didn't work. You cant have it both ways you cant, you can either look and see it doesn't work or you can stick your nose in the air and walk away. You say you want scientists to come up with new energy resources, but you damn well know they will be rejected by their own establishment in the most disrespectful ways. This here is not a scientific document, it is written for you, so that you can find the real scientists. Clean nuclear energy isn't as hard as you like to think it is.

http://knol.google.com/k/gaby-de-wilde/yull-brown/1yrf1mzjtxzk5/9

I suggest you show us you are not the illiterate cry baby you have us believe you are. There is no such thing as proof by ego.
QuoteAnyone with lack of 'O' level physics can claim anything. I can claim to be God. Does that make me God?
Yes, the term God is up to you to interpretate. If you want to think you are God yourself no one can deny you this.

Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 21, 2008, 03:15:45 PM
Quote from the E-book:
Introduction by the Author â€" Lawrence C. N. Tseung

This is not an ordinary book.  It is not meant to be read.  It is meant to be studied.  It contains controversial scientific material.  It contains economic concepts which will change the wealth-generating process of the world.  The reader is encouraged to discuss the contents and share his thoughts with his friends and via the internet.

This book has complete credibility because it did not go on sale before a working Lead-Out-Energy device had been publicly announced and demonstrated world-wide.  This device is the Wang 5 kW electrical generator or the larger electrical generator which is suitable for commercial substation use.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Where is the generator then Lawrence? Where is the public announcement and the world-wide demonstration?
Maybe they missed Australia somehow. Perhaps this is not not surprising since Australia was only recently discovered. They should update their maps in China.

Hans von Lieven


Aboriginals are real people you know? Anyway, the Australian researchers are doing great work Hans, how could you have missed it?

http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7963170711425084436










Very impressive work from Professor Tseung here.

Let me try answer some of the rethoric first.

Quote from: utilitarian on October 20, 2008, 09:39:48 PM
This is hardcore socialism.
You make it sound like being a-social is something admirable. It's not.
Quote from: utilitarian on October 21, 2008, 06:01:26 AM
You can also look at the former Soviet Union for many examples of sure-lose government-run businesses.
I'm looking at you as an example of "problem focused thinking", where are your solutions?

http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTGLOBALMONITORING2006/Resources/Poverty_Map.jpg

Specially India has much to learn from Russia.

Quote from: utilitarian on October 21, 2008, 06:01:26 AMThe obvious solution is to pass stronger laws and penalize.

The opposite of social is of course a police state.

Quote from: utilitarian on October 21, 2008, 09:08:33 AM
Private industry thrives while government controlled entities stagnate.  The desire to make a profit has an interesting consequence - it causes people to care.

Exploitation requires lack of care. The desire to make a profit is an act of greed, it has nothing to do with caring about anything.

The opposite of social is asocial and the opposite of clean energy is dirty energy. Clean energy and responsible use of resources will preserve our planet and keep it fit to live on. Dirty energy and irresponsible profiteering is already killing everyone.

Not "maybe", oxygen levels have declined dramatically in the last 50 years, not surprisingly they follow the same curve as the economy.

We can grow industrial hemp in all places where the ground isn't fertile, where the air is polluted and in all deserts. Africa is available to draw carbon from the air and make all the oxygen this planet needs. This is not going to happen by the effort of greedy profiteers.

Communism, environmentalism and socialism are just words representing a method. Just like perpetual motion represents an area of research. In your world view all those words mean something that cant work. Apparently you think of human life and the environment as a free lunch that never ends. But people are dieing at massive rates, the world is dieing as a whole. Perhaps you should stop crying and start pedaling.

Quote from: chrisC on October 21, 2008, 04:50:28 PMNotice how the thread has moved from trying to prove his technical mumbo-jumbo to solving human issues and financial gloom and doom.
This has always been the topic, you just didn't pay attention. We are not trying to prove anything, we are trying to find a solution for the global death problem. Hydrogen-carbon is not a free lunch.
Quote from: chrisC on October 23, 2008, 07:43:30 PM
Who needs real scientists?
Looking at the Large Hadron Collider I tend to think I really don't need scientists. The only purpose they serve is to convince people like you who worship their opinion. If some one says perpetual motion they stick their nose in the wind and walk away. After walking away they will claim it didn't work. You cant have it both ways you cant, you can either look and see it doesn't work or you can stick your nose in the air and walk away. You say you want scientists to come up with new energy resources, but you damn well know they will be rejected by their own establishment in the most disrespectful ways. This here is not a scientific document, it is written for you, so that you can find the real scientists. Clean nuclear energy isn't as hard as you like to think it is.

http://knol.google.com/k/gaby-de-wilde/yull-brown/1yrf1mzjtxzk5/9

I suggest you show us you are not the illiterate cry baby you have us believe you are. There is no such thing as proof by ego.
QuoteAnyone with lack of 'O' level physics can claim anything. I can claim to be God. Does that make me God?
Yes, the term God is up to you to interpretate. If you want to think you are God yourself no one can deny you this.

Quote from: hansvonlieven on October 21, 2008, 03:15:45 PM
Quote from the E-book:
Introduction by the Author â€" Lawrence C. N. Tseung

This is not an ordinary book.  It is not meant to be read.  It is meant to be studied.  It contains controversial scientific material.  It contains economic concepts which will change the wealth-generating process of the world.  The reader is encouraged to discuss the contents and share his thoughts with his friends and via the internet.

This book has complete credibility because it did not go on sale before a working Lead-Out-Energy device had been publicly announced and demonstrated world-wide.  This device is the Wang 5 kW electrical generator or the larger electrical generator which is suitable for commercial substation use.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Where is the generator then Lawrence? Where is the public announcement and the world-wide demonstration?
Maybe they missed Australia somehow. Perhaps this is not not surprising since Australia was only recently discovered. They should update their maps in China.

Hans von Lieven


Aboriginals are real people you know? Anyway, the Australian researchers are doing great work Hans, how could you have missed it?

http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=l1vFyhRHd7k etc

Quote from: critic on October 20, 2008, 06:22:21 PM
On page 121 of the Innovation Book, the argument for a Government to create money for infrastructure projects was presented:

China used the above strategy very well.  Its sustained GDP growth of around 10% is no accident.  The ‘Bible of the Nine Yin’ (How to win the global economic war) has its place in history.  The Chinese version is in http://www.energyfromair.com/thebook.htm.  The new US president should get someone to translate it and circulate it to all his economic decision makers.


I thought it was facinating to see how the economic game was played out. Giving the westernworld everything we wanted the way China did made us lazy and careless. China will just give us everything, we don't have to work, all we have to do is count the money? no?

A bit like the dot com bubble depended on new enterpeneurs making startup investments.

Entertainment! Entertainment! Entertainment is what we want! Lets all forget about the real world and focus on the Entertainment! Stop using hydrogen-carbon? But.. but... I need it for my SUV! Alternatives are unthinkable, how will I go to the MacDonald's without it? See? Nuf said! We need hydrogen-carbon! Using hydrogen-oxygen is just a weird idea! It's dangerous! Clean nuclear energy is just crazy, nuclear energy is dangerous! The wind is also dangerous, and solar ohhh that really is a disruptive technology Not entertaining at all. Move on now, nothing to see here for you.

I wonder what is on the Tee Vee..... hahahaha

lol, people here care about footbal, TV soap and teletubbies. It's to cry about.... It seems people need to suffer to be able to care, I suffer from all this stupidity.

So lets do something about it.

I don't think magnets or gravity can replace our current needs faster than they can be implemented. Windmills and solar are already far behind on schedule.

So lets use radiolysis, thermolysis, flash photolysis and electrolysis at the same time and create a nuclear reaction burning off the radiation while generating it. This should be a suitable solution for all combustion processes.

http://knol.google.com/k/gaby-de-wilde/water-fueled-car/1yrf1mzjtxzk5/2

Subterranean biomes and pistol shrimps show us that it is clearly possible. Those biological processes did make it into the scientific literature. So there is no way for petroleum sponsored scientists to lie their way out of this.

Tell me Laurence, what would it cost to build a prototype of this.

http://wind-car.go-here.nl

Thanks,

-Gaby de Wilde
blog  | papers | tech | inventors  | video

Devil

Tseung, focus on your book.  It will sell second only to the Bible.

There will be distractions such as Zero Point Energy

http://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/index.html

You just have to use your Silicon Valley Mentality.  Whatever you have achieved is third class.    Anything you acquired from others is only third class.  Turn them to first or second class.

The World needs you.  The Hong Kong Politicians are in obvious panic mode.  They are seeing bad news on a daily basis.  The stock market nose-dived.  The property market dwindled.  The old age pensioners invested in Lehman Brother Financial Papers protested.  Listed Companies lost half their value playing with financial derivatives.  Factories closed because of lack of orders.  Tourism suffered when people care more about conserving their cash.  More bad news such as high unemployment, social unrest etc. are on the way.

Hong Kong Politicians are still thinking in the old style â€" if Hong Kong were to become wealthy, it must earn more and spend less.  The wealth must be accumulated via exports, tourism or other means.  They still do not know that wealth can be created by appropriate Government Policies.  The biggest benefactor of the property market is the Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank.  It has been earning interest from thin air for decades.  It is a sure-win business with the profit going into the pockets of the shareholders outside Hong Kong â€" a result of the Colonial Policy.  Does any Hong Kong Politician dare to propose changes?

It is time for the Hong Kong, the Chinese Politicians to read your books and act appropriately.  They are aware of lead-out-energy machines from China longer than most.  Hopefully, they are less stupid than the Wall Street Gang.
Do not worry about the insults and jeers.  Let them recite the following 666 times.

(1) The Lead-out-energy from a horizontally pulled pendulum is equal to the vertical component of the tension times the vertical displacement.
(2) An unbalanced force can be generated from a closed system.  Secondary events using unequal exchanges of energy and momentum are used.
(3) The electromagnetic Coil can be a magnet, a collision mechanism and an electricity exchange mechanism.