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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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chrisC

Quote from: atomicX on November 07, 2008, 01:20:48 PM
I went re-examine the slices of the pendulum. 

There is a mistake is labeling. .....
.... 
Mr. ltseung, I just hope that you're right. 

Mr Tseung and Mr. Altered Ego's cannot be right and wrong at the same time. That's common sense of which you both have NONE! Even first graders don't make mistakes like these!

cheers
chrisC

atomicX

Quote from: chrisC on November 07, 2008, 01:39:11 PM
Mr Tseung and Mr. Altered Ego's cannot be right and wrong at the same time. That's common sense of which you both have NONE! Even first graders don't make mistakes like these!

cheers
chrisC

ChrisC
You need to stop picking on the little things.  There are two kinds of mistake, conceptual mistake and typo mistake.  I do not consider this case a concept mistake. 

And stop assuming I'm ltseung! God.

TinselKoala

Well, as I asked before, what testable predictions does the LTLOT make? I'm looking for a falsifiable hypothesis of the form:

"If, and only if, the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out Theory (LTLOT) is true and correct, then a device constructed just so, and tested thusly, will produce observable and repeatable results A, B, and/or C."

I am perfectly willing to let Lee or Tseung or anyone else formulate a hypothesis based on the LTLOT, and design, or even hint at, an apparatus or arrangement of apparatus and test equipment. I will then happily build or assemble that stack of stuff and test away, at my own expense within reason of course (assuming something like the LHC isn't required!!).

Then I will report the results here, and to Mr. Obama, and to the Chinese authorities, and to God and the reptilian invaders from Arcturus, the Federation of Light, and anybody else who might be interested.

So far, all I've seen along these lines is some videos of ripoff non-working magnet motor designs and a couple of people spinning a barstool. (What exactly was that about, by the way? I tried my own version and got the same results: see below.)
I haven't seen any coherent statements of a testable hypothesis under the LTLOT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yC00JL7kuE

atomicX

Quote from: utilitarian on November 07, 2008, 01:22:51 PM
Tseung himself admits in his e-book that Top Gun and Devil were alter egos.  And it is obvious that Critic is too - Tseung does not deny it, and the writing style is identical.  Who else bolds and underlines constantly?

Well.... an interesting case.  I guess each of us have an interesting personal problem. 

I understand your point about experiment holds no result, but we must do the experiment and verify the result is null.  There is no room for assumption, we must not let any stone unturned.  We do not have a choice.  However, before that takes place, we must heavily verify the validity of his equations.  I found the block point between ltseung description on a pulse force and his horizontal energy equation.  It leaves room to argue namely once the pulse force is cutoff, there is no define horizontal work.  I rewrite the work equation using tension force components.  The equation simplified to a ratio of 1 variable, angle a.  This is plotted by MATLAB program.  Of course the validation only correspond to very small angle.  The ratio approach 2 as angle approach zero.  The physical meaning in my interpretation is that when the pendulum moving at position 270 degree, there is an energy gain. 

atomicX

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 07, 2008, 04:41:08 PM
Well, as I asked before, what testable predictions does the LTLOT make? I'm looking for a falsifiable hypothesis of the form:

"If, and only if, the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out Theory (LTLOT) is true and correct, then a device constructed just so, and tested thusly, will produce observable and repeatable results A, B, and/or C."

I am perfectly willing to let Lee or Tseung or anyone else formulate a hypothesis based on the LTLOT, and design, or even hint at, an apparatus or arrangement of apparatus and test equipment. I will then happily build or assemble that stack of stuff and test away, at my own expense within reason of course (assuming something like the LHC isn't required!!).

Then I will report the results here, and to Mr. Obama, and to the Chinese authorities, and to God and the reptilian invaders from Arcturus, the Federation of Light, and anybody else who might be interested.

So far, all I've seen along these lines is some videos of ripoff non-working magnet motor designs and a couple of people spinning a barstool. (What exactly was that about, by the way? I tried my own version and got the same results: see below.)
I haven't seen any coherent statements of a testable hypothesis under the LTLOT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yC00JL7kuE


TinselKoala,
I don't mean to be mean but your video is funny.  I admire that you actually put time to build that.  I'll tell you what I know in my opinion.  These kind of experiment does not shows result on small inertia.  If you consider the following case:  A ball of cotten and a ball of steel.  You throw them both with all your might.  There obviously a different between both object energy result.  In the end, you still used all your might, right?  I'm not saying the LOT is right or wrong.  It's more important how we conduct experiment and what are our assumptions.