The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[chrisC]

Guys,

All you have to say is, "well, the idea is nice, but I'm not buying it But hey, goodluck with whatever you doing".  I do have a suspicion that the Chinese government is up to something.  Why didn't they recall Tseung back from his posting and save the man.  He might knows what he's doing or he maybe being used without knowing it.  The conspiracy will continue and won't stop unless you stop questioning.  I don't care if the theory is right or wrong, what I see is a persistance old man getting run over and over again.  My suggestion is that Tseung stop posting, but don't even know why he insisted on doing the impossible.  Here's the plan.  Utilitarian, ChrisC, TinselKoala, Pirate, and all those get tired of this post type down 3 words "gooluck, I'm out" and never look back.  If there is any other victim fall into this theory, they have a few thousand post to think about and they'll find themselves talking to just Tseung.  If you think that's not fair and you need to protect those naive people, then I don't really have any other solution. 

Like I said before. You're as DORKY as Tseung, besides you sound like him too!

cheers
chrisC

[utilitarian]

Here are some interesting posts by Lawrence from the Steorn board from Sep 2006:

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=13552&page=1#Item_0\

"As scientists, we look for scientific evidence.

Steorn invites 12 independent scientists to check their machine and validate the claims.

We send our prototypes to the top Universities for peer review and certification.

The scientific evidence will be out within weeks.

We already have our stake in the PCT patent application PCT/IB/2005/000138. It will be accepted by the scientific community after they see the working prototypes and the authorative reports from the top Universities.

You may be scratching your heads for a scientific explanation then. When you can find none. You will re-examine our website with respect."

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So Lawrence, whatever happened to your prototypes that you sent out to top Universities in September of 2006?  Where is this scientific evidence that you promised would be out more than two years ago?  All we have seen from you are blurry photos of other people's devices.  Let me guess, in a few months, right?

This is a classic scam, though run very badly, but the elements are there.

1.  Apply for a patent based on free energy technology.  Note that the patent was never granted, but that's ok.  Any idiot who gives money to this venture is not likely to realize the difference between a patent and a patent application.

2.  Make a website like www.energyfromair.com, that gives a long writeup, but shows no actual evidence of anything working.

3.  Lawrence is the frontman, and he gives excuses of being poor or old or whatever, that are convenient when someone demands a demonstration.  But there is reference to other people, who conveniently do not speak English, but are very well financed - like Wang Shum Ho.

4.  Make a fake company website like cnk.com or whatever that was.  Idiots will not realize that the company is too broke to host their own videos, but use a youtube-like chinese service for their bandwidth.  Again, a few things are shown spinning, but very little details are revealed.

5.  Try to publicize the invention to lure investors.  It is not clear why investors are needed, since Wang Shum Ho is so rich, but that's ok.  Suckers won't care.  Unfortunately, Lawrence and Wang Shum Ho are so broke they cannot afford to spend any actual money to get the word out, so Lawrence posts on boards like Steorn, Bessler's Wheel and Overunity.  Unfortunately, he gets kicked off Bessler's for being a fraud.  No one responds on the Steorn forum, because they all conclude he is crazy.  So Overunity is what's left, and he pumps it like crazy.

Unfortunately, foolish people with money do not read overunity.com.  But Lawrence and his people figure they only need to strike once and maybe get a million or two out of a sucker, so they keep at it.

[atomicX]

Like I said before. You're as DORKY as Tseung, besides you sound like him too!

cheers
chrisC

Hey you annoying piece of sh@t.  You just broke the F@#king camel's back.  Excuse my F@#$#king language but you need to put your tongue where it belong.  People like you just cause bad reputation to the US.  Now I've suspected you're f#@#$king payroll debunker or just a really bad kid rampling his foul mouth.  A@@#wipe.

[Pirate88179]

@ Utilitarian:

Excellent post, good research and summation.  That pretty much says it all.  The only thing you might have left out that I can see is the bribing of Chinese officials, and the like, with hookers.  That too has been used as a tool by scammers for ages.

@ atomicX:

chrisC has just pointed out that you, for some really strange reason, type with the same, or very similar phrasing that Lawrence uses under his alter egos.  I agree with him.  I honestly believe you are also one of Lawrence's cast of characters.  You are not fooling anybody.  Maybe you should try posting again as Major Todd Hathaway?  I see a very strong resemblance there.  With a little more research, I will know for sure.  Stay tuned.

Bill

[TinselKoala]

Well, I've tried to bring a little actual science to this discussion, without effect.

My questions as to whether the device is even claimed to be able to hover have gone unanswered.

My request for even a single coherent hypothesis generated by the LTLOT has been ignored.

My comments and analysis of the pendulum experiment and the square-wheel experiment have been ignored.

I can see it was a total mistake for me to try to take this thread, and LTseung, and the LTLOT, seriously.

SO, taking AtomicX's advice, I say these three little words:

"gooluck, I'm out"