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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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chrisC

Quote from: Top Gun on December 09, 2008, 09:34:38 AM
Man-made flying saucers are already flying and sighted by many.

.....

Of course, how stupid of us not to notice those UFO sighted by many are actually thought incarnations of your unproven theories. Well, what can we say, your a genius Tseung!

So clever, you can't even understand your own delusions and expect us to believe in your unsubstantiated crap. You're not Chairman Mao and you're not living in the 1930's in China. Get over it!

cheers
chrisC

Pirate88179

TopGun:

If what you said in your above post were true, and it isn't, a kid on a pogo stick would fly off into deep space.  He only goes up because he has the earth to push off against.  It is exactly the same with your vertical tube on the table. If you can't/ won't see this, neither I, nor anyone else, can help you.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

utilitarian

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 09, 2008, 11:05:58 AM
And of course your next statement is complete garbage.
In the first place, all the motion of the device comes from reaction against a substrate. I don't care how powerful the pulses are or how light the batteries are. It won't jump unless it pushes off of something!!

WHY in the world don't you show a test of this simple proposal?
A proper frictonless surface for the horizontal version.
A pendulum or hover test of the vertical version.


Show such a demo, or please STFU about the non-existent flying saucer.

I feel your frustration, and I cannot believe I am still involved in this debate.  Just remember, you are dealing with a liar.  Not just someone who is mistaken about something, but someone who actively lies to preserve the point of view.  This is a completely different animal than what you normally see from a garage inventor.

Top Gun

The conclusive conceptual Experiment in the Experiment001 series.

In the attached diagram, M an N are Coil type (Ex001Explain04) devices.  They are physically joined together.  M and N are built strong enough that any one can jump with a large enough force to carry both to a few meters.  There is no need to carry the battery and other parts up at this stage.

(1)   M is started.  It will carry both M and N upwards.
(2)   While in the upward movement, N is started.
(3)   If the joined M and N device moves upwards a little more, the flying saucer prototype can be built.

The successful result essentially confirms the Lee-Tseung statement that an unbalanced force for propulsion can be generated from within.  One can argue that M can jump up because of the ground.  There is no ground for N to react against.

If N can increase the upward motion, the rest is engineering and tuning.

Tinselkoala, please build Experiment001 or to simplify things a little bit, build the Ex001explain04 set up.  You must be able to repel the magnet away from your electromagnet with sufficient momentum before any discussions or actions are meaningful.  Email Lawrence Tseung at ltseung@hotmail.com and he will put you in touch directly with Mr. Tong Po Chi so that he can help you to do the right setup.

If you can do Ex001Explain06 yourself, there could be no cheating.  I shall give you plenty of time to do it.  I shall not post the Tong results or videos until you have tried.

TinselKoala

Sorry. The explain004 has zero chance of working as you describe.

And I will not build it for you. Why not? Because if I do, and a null result occurs, you will once again weasel out by handwaving and modifying the necessary conditions of the experiment.

This is why, in scientific research, it is important to do several things at the outset:

-Formulate a clear statement of the overarching theory
-Use that theory to make one or more testable, falsifiable hypotheses
-Operationalize the constructs involved: this means to define terms and assign values to variables
-Decide on precise criteria for evaluating and interpreting results and data

When these preliminary tasks are accomplished, then one may proceed to:

-Perform experiments in an attempt to FALSIFY an hypothesis
-Use the results from an honest intellectual and mathematical evaluation of results to either a) reject the hypothesis and hence the overarching theory, or b)  fail to reject the hypothesis and use the results to expand the theory and/or generate new falsifiable hypotheses

Now, the only way that I would even consider performing explain004 for you, is if you agree, beforehand, on the exact construction details of the device and the energizing apparatus AND you agree, in front of your ancestors and this forum, that if the experiment FAILS to perform as you predict above, it will be a conclusive FALSIFICATION of the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out Theory, and you will not make unsupported claims about it in the future.

I insist on these conditions, because I am perfectly willing to accept the converse conditions. If the device, built to your exact specifications, does indeed hover and sustain flight as you describe above, I will publicly acknowledge your superior understanding and the efficacy of the LTLOT, while eating my hat, and I will give up my criticisms of you and the LTLOT.