The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

[broli]

Can anyone explain why the table top experiment is not valid? I don't get that argument in this case. BUT I have to also say that I'm making big assumptions. Like the fact that if the frequency was high enough to allow smooth unidirectional motion without any hick ups. If this would happen then would this mean that the device works? I guess the most simplest way to check is to make a pulley that goes over the edge of the table which lifts a small weight with any mass desired. Or if there's access to a scientific lab one could use an air track.

[ltseung888]

Can anyone explain why the table top experiment is not valid? I don't get that argument in this case. BUT I have to also say that I'm making big assumptions. Like the fact that if the frequency was high enough to allow smooth unidirectional motion without any hick ups. If this would happen then would this mean that the device works? I guess the most simplest way to check is to make a pulley that goes over the edge of the table which lifts a small weight with any mass desired. Or if there's access to a scientific lab one could use an air track.

The purpose of the experiments is to show that an unbalanced force can be produced for propulsion purposes from within a closed system.  The remote car in a box video already demonstrated that conclusively.  If you watch that video carefully, you will find that we rely on the unequal collision to achieve this.

The table top experiment with the device placed horizontally also proved that conclusively.  This means that we can definitely provide horizontal force without the need to eject hot gases or rely on friction between the object and the external surface..

The next step is to see whether we can apply the same technique for forces in the vertical direction.  The complication in this case is that gravity induces a constant force in the downward direction.  The unbalanced force must be large enough to overcome this gravitational pull for the object to move up.  We know that we can provide a temporary pulse force upwards so that the object will jump.  We can make the object jump a few mm in the table top experiment at present.  The goal is to get it to jump at least 10 cm in a first step.  (We are working on that.)

The next step is to check whether the unbalanced force can be applied while the object is moving in midair.  This is the point we are discussing.

Lee Cheung Kin proposed such experiments to his Chinese Military friends.  The result was a flying saucer prototype within 6 months.  He wrote an Open Letter to President-Elect Obama on November 4, 2008 with some pictures and some explanations.  He then got into the political issue of whether such a prototype is top-secret.  He is still working on this issue.

Meanwhile, I took on the task of inspiring a number of individuals to do the experiments in Hong Kong.  They obviously do not have the resources of the Chinese military (or the USA or other Countries).  They treat it as fun and work on it part-time.  So far, the results have been promising. 

We are open for comments and abuses.  We expect jeers and cheers.  That adds excitement to life - apart from the fishing.

[hansvonlieven]

Can anyone explain why the table top experiment is not valid? I don't get that argument in this case. BUT I have to also say that I'm making big assumptions. Like the fact that if the frequency was high enough to allow smooth unidirectional motion without any hick ups. If this would happen then would this mean that the device works? I guess the most simplest way to check is to make a pulley that goes over the edge of the table which lifts a small weight with any mass desired. Or if there's access to a scientific lab one could use an air track.

You don't need a science lab or an air track. Mount the contraption on a piece of styrofoam and put it in a swimming pool or bath tub.

You soon see it doesn't work.

Hans von Lieven

[Forever]

 
I have just uploaded 4 videos to youtube.

1. The Tong Po Chi device with a transparent tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt0J8WJ2qIA

2. The Tong Po Chi device using a magnetic restriction rather than collision
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FafYVGbgULw

3. The Dr. Raymond Ting Improvement one showing a jump of more than 30 centimeters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2f3mTnX9Pk

4. The Dr. Raymond Ting Improvment two using a stronger and heavier magnet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxv2zVHgc4Q

[Pirate88179]

Forever:

All but the 2nd video were unavailable when I attempted to view them.

Bill