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Eldarion and Bruce's build of Bob's Energy Converter

Started by eldarion, July 27, 2007, 12:58:39 AM

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Bruce_TPU

#25
August 02, 2007, 04:24:28 PM
Hi Bob,

Thank you very much for the phase timing diagram.  It cleared up alot of haze.  Nothing like a visual aid to assist.

If I understand what you are saying though, about the "precision phase control", is that every coil will be slightly different, and the phase will need to be tuned from the open ends of each of the primaries, to get the tuning exact or precise, for "that" set of primaries on that coil?

Eldarion and I have decided to go the six primaries route, when we get to that point.  We look forward to seeing the Hex controller you said you did not mind releasing to us.  It should give some good ideas, or provide an "exact" replication for some of the guys who want to do that.  Our cores will be arriving soon, and I for one am very excited to wind a proper coil.

@ Bob and All

I have spent enourmous amounts of time, redoing the .PDF.  Editing it and making it far more professional in appearance as well as much easier to find information based on subject, rather than post.  It will be a couple of weeks before it is ready for everyone.  Dr. Mark is providing some nice artwork and we are adding a cover.  It will also give me time to add the rest of the upcoming photos from the remainder of Bob's build.  I have also removed information not confirmed by Bob, so as not to confuse.  This .PDF will be something Bob can use in the future for any other replicators he chooses to work with.

Also, with Bob's blessing, I desire, when it is finished, to get a copy to Mannix, to get to Steven Mark.  It could be just the thing to encourage the group UEC that controls his tech to also release more information.

Happy Days!  :)
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Grumpy

#26
August 02, 2007, 07:12:24 PM
If you were UEC, would you release more information?  Would you want people all over the world making their own power and who knows what else?
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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eldarion

#27
August 02, 2007, 07:14:50 PM
Quote from: Grumpy on August 02, 2007, 07:12:24 PM
If you were UEC, would you release more information?  Would you want people all over the world making their own power and who knows what else?

I can smell the lawsuits now! :D

You're probably right...no corporation could ever release this information--they would be sued and driven out of business.

Back on topic, I noticed in Bob's diagram that the frequency mix creates groups of pulses, but that every other group is missing only the third pulse.  I wonder what effect that causes in the TPU?

This also underscores the need for exact 0?, 120?, 240? timing, as without it, those pulse groupings will not be created.

Eldarion
"The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheaply, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value."
-- Thomas Paine

eldarion

#28
August 02, 2007, 07:59:22 PM
Bob,

I have one other question for you.  What is the recommended peak amplitude for the three primary frequencies?  For some reason, I was under the impression that it was supposed to be pulsed high voltage, but I was wondering if it might work with as low as 12 volts?

Thanks,

Eldarion
"The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheaply, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value."
-- Thomas Paine

eldarion

#29
August 03, 2007, 02:51:48 AM
Well, here is the output on the combined test channel of my controller.  We should definitely see some effects here! ;D

Thanks again Bob for the diagram; my pulses looked nothing like this before.
"The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheaply, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value."
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