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Eldarion and Bruce's build of Bob's Energy Converter

Started by eldarion, July 27, 2007, 12:58:39 AM

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eldarion

#165
November 15, 2007, 04:44:39 PM
Hey, I thought I would check in and give a brief update.

I now have the second 160V isolated HV supply built.  It does seem to be making a difference (finally!)  With the HV potential in line with the secondary, I am able to use shorter pulse widths to acheive certain brightness levels on the 60W bulb.

Right now, the system is drawing about 4 amps at some voltage less than 11 volts (have not yet had a chance to measure it, but the two inverters go into low-voltage shutdown mode if I increase the pulse width any further--I am still powering the while thing off of a 3A surge 13.8V power supply).  With that input, the bulb is maybe 2/3 of the way lit.  So even if not overunity yet, at least the COP is approaching 1!

To answer Bruce's upcoming question, no, I have not yet engaged the magnetic bias. ;)

Eldarion
"The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheaply, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value."
-- Thomas Paine

Bruce_TPU

#166
November 15, 2007, 06:29:19 PM
 ;D
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Jdo300

#167
November 15, 2007, 07:35:53 PM
Sounds great Eldarion!

Does varying the HV bias influence the brightness of the bulb?

God Bless,
Jason O

eldarion

#168
November 15, 2007, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Jdo300 on November 15, 2007, 07:35:53 PM
Sounds great Eldarion!

Does varying the HV bias influence the brightness of the bulb?

God Bless,
Jason O

Hi Jason,

For some reason shutting down the HV power supply (bringing the bias voltage to zero) has absolutely no effect on the bulb brightness.  I may have sounded a false alarm here! ;D

I did try connecting the magnetic bias, and besides exerting a powerful effect on my old CRT monitor, it did nothing.

I am curious as to what Rich did to improve his setup?  My current COP seems to be very close to what he was originally getting (almost, but a little less than, 1).  Speaking of COP, I verified my input power as 41 watts for the approximately 2/3 lit 60W bulb.

I am sooo close, but something is still not right!

Eldarion

EDIT: One other thing: the running converter is generating some pretty powerful magnetic fields--my old CRT gets interesting patterns generated in it when this thing is fired up...
"The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheaply, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value."
-- Thomas Paine

Bruce_TPU

#169
November 16, 2007, 03:40:34 AM
Hi Eldarion,

Just a couple of quick questions, my friend.

What frequency was your F4 during this experiment?  And did you attempt to increase the frequency to garner more power?  If so, was there an effect?

Did you scope across the "other" longitudinal winding of the core, from the top, bottom, and inside winding on the core, and see ANY signal?  Could you post a scope shot of that for us, please?

Thanks, and great job!  When the magnetic bais affects things AND also the lowering of the HV potential on the secondary affects things, and when those other windings show current, you will have a "fully" working device as described by Bob.  Sooo.... If your cop is at about 1 now, imagine once it is working....!  LOL      ;)

Are you driving the six primaries as two sets of three, or just driving three primaries?  Can you also please post a scope shot of your thin negative pulses off of the primary, since it's fix.  Thanks!! 

Side note to all:*Please remember that Rich is using a "pulsed" system, not rotational.  Also, and Rich please correct me if I am wrong, he has no magnetic bias or "other" longitudinal windings on his core.  It is wound simply with a secondary and three primaries.  So, in the rotational mode we should be seeing much more power.  Time to check everything, again.

Warm regards,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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