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Bob's Booster On Demand (BOD)

Started by yikes, July 28, 2007, 08:11:13 PM

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atfab

Details?
What volts, amps you running? Engine mods? What car/motor. Size and configuration of the plates?

Thanks.
Paul

yikes

RR, the lid holds really well, no leaks.
atfab, 12v, about 10 amp (haven't installed the amp meter yet), no mods other than I moved the battery to the front trunk, 1600 mr2, and I already gave the other info, thanks.

Today I played with a neon transformer.  There is more to learn about this I think.
I also put a capacitor in a small ss bowl, connected one leg to positive and put negative to the bowl and added water up to the second leg.  just to see what would happen....nothing happened other than the hands on the clock turned.  I like doing silly things like this from time to time.  Like this, today I found that I had killed the mosfet in the vic (lawton's) so I looked in a parts bin, found a chip that had 3 legs like a mosfet, said WTH, and soldered it on,,,,it didn't work but it was fun just to try.  I'm only getting mV out of the #3 leg on the second 555 chip, tried another but no help.  Mouser, Mouser where are you when I need you.
On the booster, the H gas tube is 1 1/4"  (yeah , no restriction), but I wasn't happy with the vacuum, so I ground off the following edge of the connector at the throttle body,,hey, how about that it worked.  One success out of 10 or 15, good enough for me.

hkyle

Nice cell yikes...But...There is one thing that you should take note of...With long tall electrodes, when the gas is coming up it pushes the water away from the electrodes as it rises...Great loss is efficiency.

Keep up the good work...

kyle


Quote from: yikes on July 28, 2007, 08:11:13 PM
I have found that working on a test cell is fun, but I also wanted to see some practical results.  So I built this booster to put in a car so that I could quickly make modifications to it and try it out.  The good part is that is works, it is easily taken apart, changed in whatever way and put back in.  The other part is that it is cheaply made and won't last long, but since it is made just for testing that is not really a bad thing.
The basic idea came from Smack's booster and then modified.  The container comes from K-Mart and is called a "lock n lock", it has a rubber gasket in the lid and has 4 latching flaps to securely hold the lid on.  The lid has (2)   1/4" holes for bolts for electric connections and then a hole for the gas connections.  The container is 11" tall.  I hold it in the car with zip ties, which makes it easy to take out.  K-mart has other sizes that I use for Meyer's tube type cells and IH type series cells.
Any stainless plates will work, but I'm using the ss blanking plate for electrical work boxes from Lowes or Home Depot ($1.63 each)  just because it's convenient.  The 1/4" plastic rod, I get from Grainger's $1.22 for 2 foot.  The straps are from Lowes and are a ss BBQ grill tong $3.00.  You need to drill holes for the connections so a good drill bit is necessary and is more fun than trying to drill with the cheap bits.  The plates are spaced with a nylon washer.
The configuration in the pictures is two gangs of plates one on top of the other with edges touching.  The whole thing is then coated with "window weld" (NAPA $15.00).

The idea of this booster is that if I get an idea, I can quickly slap it together and try it out.  My car gets 27mpg, with this I got 36mpg, one of my units got 41.  I'm trying for 50.  We will see.  If you have any ideas for me to try, post it; I will try it out and report back.  Or make your own and post your results.  Hopefully this thread can be a place where we can all share our dumb mistakes and our elegant successes.

Here are some pics:

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x171/mryikes/2007_0728bobbod0003.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x171/mryikes/2007_0728bobbod0002.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x171/mryikes/2007_0728bobbod0001.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x171/mryikes/2007_0715sparkplug0003.jpg


It?s easier to be forgiven than it is to get permission....

yikes

Point taken and appreciated, Kyle.

But I also feel that one of the negatives of our cells is our inability to utilize the H as it is released; the H hits the surface tension and turns back down into the solution.  I am heading for a narrow top so that vacuum can have more of an effect to help efficiency.  It's all a learning process.

atfab

yikes,
     Thanks for the info, I just started getting parts together to experment on my old Camry wagon, 2.5 liter. I also just found this site a few days ago.

     Great stuff here! will post as the build and testing advance. I have too many hobbies already so don't hold your breath.

Paul