The truth about "overunity".

[Elvis Oswald]

[quote author=HopeForHumanity link=topic=3004.msg44109#msg44109 date=1186940607

No, Dante lives in Texas, I live in Florida. I have talked to him at length via e-mail, but only once on the phone.

Inventors and genius types are usually quite eccentric and often a little over the top. Einstein was thought to be a lunatic and I beleive it was Galileo who was hung for his beliefs. I wouldn't judge the book by its cover.
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So, you think - because you are a lunatic - that you are a genius?  haha

[Dingus Mungus]

I'm pretty sure NAV has gotten his answer already... Lets not let this thread turn in to name calling and semantics. Also I think h4h's point was that eccentric or "crazy" inventors tend to be very sane in retrospect. They're percieved as 'crazy' because people do not yet understand. He's not talking about himself or even a member of this board... You implied that.

@PESE
If the heat was used to warm water, than useful energy is extracted and your efficiency goes up. So lets say the water keeps 50% of the solar heat. Then you'd have 20% turned to useful electricity, and 40% turned to useful heat. Still only 60% efficient, but with a CoP of infinity. Once you have a intended use for the energy its counted twards "useful output", CoP, and net efficiency.

~Dingus Mungus

[HopeForHumanity]

I'm sorry, but at least Einstein published mathematical formulas to support the word salad he had to offer. All I see here is word salad, no good equations or systems experiments and GOOD things of that nature. 

[pese]

I'm pretty sure NAV has gotten his answer already... Lets not let this thread turn in to name calling and semantics. Also I think h4h's point was that eccentric or "crazy" inventors tend to be very sane in retrospect. They're percieved as 'crazy' because people do not yet understand. He's not talking about himself or even a member of this board... You implied that.

@PESE
If the heat was used to warm water, than useful energy is extracted and your efficiency goes up. So lets say the water keeps 50% of the solar heat. Then you'd have 20% turned to useful electricity, and 40% turned to useful heat. Still only 60% efficient, but with a CoP of infinity. Once you have a intended use for the energy its counted twards "useful output", CoP, and net efficiency.

~Dingus Mungus

Yes .
This is for all , ti understand better ....
that a lotof energy will go "unused"  out in the ambient !

This are no  LOST !.
This are only unused energies
that going out , from your "unusing head"
because industrues are  interested to
take your "unused" money from your pocket.

Gustav Pese

see also www.leebell.net
to collect somes eneries from ambient
(Member: -fleebell- inthis forum)
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[Navi-gator]

I'm sorry, but at least Einstein published mathematical formulas to support the word salad he had to offer. All I see here is word salad, no good equations or systems experiments and GOOD things of that nature. 

Maybe you could share some of yours and broaden the discussion. I am also interested in seeing some formulas for measuring over unity. The searches I have done show CoP as a method but only when it involves heat.