Open letter to inventors (destination: underground)

[innovation_station]

marco i so do agree

we are all brothers at benches here

i did find the magnet flame discharge osc im playing with verry intresting my flames are of good size with this and so are the kicks

tesla states the effect is much enhanced with magnets in his pattend for the quenched magnetic spark gap discharge thingie

i have tryed so many times to get my video uploaded but cannot

@stephen can you some how raise the up load limit to 5 or 10 megs?

it would be of great help if you could this should be seen bye all intrested it might be close to the simplest form of disruptive discharge controler  for kicks


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[z_p_e]

Hi Darren,
This is simply explained,
The high voltage from the plate transformer is connected to the heater transformer.
but it is only connected to one end of the winding,therefore it is not a closed circuit.
That was a bit confusing to me and as i remember correctly i took a 100kpot in series with a 30k resistor in series between the high voltage output of the tube and the scope.
i was hoping to scale the voltage down and as you know at that point i was not familiar with the shunt circuit you pointed out to me.
Anyway ,the signal was too large to fit the screen of the scope so i decided to disconnect the ground wire.
Beautiful Kicks appeard and i remember thinking this was a bit of a new area to me because i am used to work with the ancient "closed loop"

Marco.

Wow, Marco. Now I'm slightly confused. I think these were some details that may have been worth mentioning a lot earlier   

The high voltage from the plate transformer is connected to the heater transformer.

Yes it is, through the tube rectifier, not directly.

but it is only connected to one end of the winding,therefore it is not a closed circuit.

The tube heater filament, which is also the cathode, is connected to both ends of the filament transformer secondary, so I do not see how this is true.

Anyway ,the signal was too large to fit the screen of the scope so i decided to disconnect the ground wire.

The fact that the signal was still too large makes perfect sense. Which ground wire did you disconnect...the scope ground lead?

If you were then measuring the output with an ungrounded scope, then what was the scope using as a reference? Is your scope battery operated or plugged into the grid?

Even if your scope was powered off the grid, you still would have no reference to your circuit because it is all isolated by the transformers. ?

Help me out please....I don't want to be confused about what you are doing.

Darren

[turbo]

Darren,
The circuit was fed by a truck battery.
The Scope was fed by a seperate car battery.
No Grid connection invloved.
Because i could not see the waveform on the scope, i disconnected the ground wire which normally was on the zero voltage line of the plate transformer.

The tube heater filament, which is also the cathode, is connected to both ends of the filament transformer secondary, so I do not see how this is true.

are you saying the 500VDC is coupled to the heater transformer?
I ask because i still do not completly understand how we can couple 500VDC on top of the 5VAC.
as i look at the drawing it seems as if the high voltage which is also the output, is connected to one end of the filament only.

Marco.

[z_p_e]

Marco,

I'm responding back in the tubes thread where this belongs

Darren

[innovation_station]

ok all a page or so back i said i had a pm

and oh yes i do but here is the responce i got from the writer

"Which Pm? Some of the Pms ive sent had to do with a spific builder. And was only intended for the person i sent it to. Personally i wish people would stop messing with the ring. Its far more than people realise. "



and im now second thinkng of posting this pm for saftey reasons!!!!     as  that is the reason it is just not right there for all to see

turbos ring with my mods to it was used as the collector now it was used with steel and aluminum or other dissimilar metals to achive output

really i guess the writer of the pm has left it up to me if i want to post it or not and right now i think i will leave it for a bit we just are not ready for it yet 

altho it does work

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