Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

[dutchy1966]

after reading the patent posted a little back it says you can calculate the capicantance of the water and staineless
steel

using surface area, dielectric and distance spaced apart

i found a formula but it required the permitivity of the dielectric so does anyone know the permitivity of water?

i have no idea if this is correct but its an idea?

Hi,

It is mentioned somewhere in Stanley's documents (I think it's the tech brief). I haven't got it at hand but I think I remember it being 78 at 25 degrees celsius.
Should be pretty easy to find using google i guess....

Btw, th acrylic tube came today, so i will start building this weekend.

regards

Robert

[saintpoida]

oh i thought permativity was something different to the dielectric value thingy

meh i have no idea what im talking about but if your right then that value sounds about right from my
memory, where is this tech brief thing anyway more reading is always helpful for a newbie like me...

on that note though if we can use that value as permativity then does someone want to use it to find
the resonant frequency of there already built unit and see if that is what its actually resonating at?

im still conditioning and stuff other wise i would try work it out

[dutchy1966]

As you might understand already, the resonant frequency is dependent on several things and hard to exactly calculate. E.g. it is dependent on the water quality, water temperature, size and number of tubes and the used chokes config.

I tried to attach the tech brief, but it keeps coming up with a posting error. I guess it's too big....
I'll try again later

Robert

[saintpoida]

well yeah i understand it depends on size and number of plates but that would come down to the capicator side
of the equation, as i understand it capacitors in parallel add and inductors in series add, so when you worked
out one of your tubes, you could just multiply by number that you have or is that too simple thinking?

And as for water quality that brings me to my next question, adjustable inductor

Would i be wrong in thinking this could be made by making two identical inductors and lie them
side by side and as you move one away from the other you would be chaning the inductance??

Or is that too simple thinking again?

[dutchy1966]

I guess it is best to calculate a rough figure for the frequency by the known parameters of a specific cell. Then just find the exact spot by changing the frequency with the controller.
Another problem with this cell is that if the water is converted into gas the water level in the cell drops. This changes the desired frequency! So you either have to have a circuit that detects the dropping water level and controls a pump to adjust the water level. OR the frequency needs to be adjusted while the cell is running.
Stanley Meyer had a circuit that tracked the resonance in the cell and kept it running at the exact right frequency....

Robert