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Overunity Machines Forum



Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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SwinG

Has alle development in this thread stopped?
What about all the experimenters who was going to work on this?
What happend to Ravi?

I'm about to start an attempt on a replication, but is noone else battling with the Stanley Meyer WFC at the moment?

Sorry for all the questions, but I was hoping to join all the fun soon  ;D

SwinG

saintpoida

i think there are still people trying it and im sure they will post stuff when
they get something useful to post

i have got way too much work for next couple of weeks so mine has taken a
bit of a rest for now but i will be back on it soon!

Pirate88179

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User Freenrg4me was banned from this forum several days ago.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

mrgalleria

Aloha,
I have not read this entire forums content, but has anyone mentioned that Stanleys buggy had a very large alternator hanging on the left side of the motor (with stock generator in its position above the motor), and had an electric motor spinning an alternator in clear view, on his tabletop demonstration video?
Bill

mrgalleria

Aloha,
I would like to expand on this alternator issue, as I may have an insight that others may not because I am familiar with VW's and heavy equip., a little.
I am going to base my following statements on a combination of assumptions and experience, so please take my information with a grain of salt. See "Stan Meyers water car" on youtube.

This video may be of the first running on water. Stan says that it is "ordinary natural water". The engine appears stock (1500cc), with a stock 30-32mm carb., stock generator, intake. It has a blue coil- high perfomance item, no air filter, dual exhaust, a box about 4x4x2 between the taillights on the frame (don't know what that is), to the left of the licence plate is an alternator (maybe ford or chevy), the cell appears to be about 2" tall and 4" in diameter, it looks like he used a spray paint can lid as a choke to start the motor, 
Stan says he can accelerate by varying voltage. He says the fuel cell has 13 3/4lbs. pressure, after looking at the gauge at the top of the cell.
There is an alternator on the ground next to the cell (which it being turned by an electric motor) which Stan said is running at 5 volts, 2 amps, if I understand correctly. Stan is talking while the loud motor is running. Stan does not mention how much energy the electric motor is using, so this will have to be taken into account.
It is my observation that the motor spinning the alternator has a 3" pulley, and the alternator may have a 2" pulley. Assuming that the electric motor is spinning at 3600 rpm, then the alternator may be spinning at 5400 rpm. The electric motor is not under much load, as Stan said the alternator is putting out only 5 amps, so the current draw must be low.
We don't know if the alternator was modified but it is safe to assume that it was, as Stan said that he could accelerate by changing voltage. If the voltage regulator was removed from the alternator, then increased rpm would result in increased voltage. I think the alternator is 12 volt, as it appears to be about 6" in diameter. I was wondering if Stan had used a 24 volt alternator off of some heavy equipment, like a caterpillar or other big diesel. That may prove to be an option.
I cannot tell at what point the hydrogen is introduced, but since the tube from the cell is so large, yet not visable at the motor, it must be attached lower near the carb base.
I suspect that the alternator on the car has a 3" pulley, and the motor probably has about a 6" pulley (like the original) bolted or welded on top of the stock one.
Stan said it took 11 minutes to convert the car to run on hydrogen. Maybe he runs the hydrogen into the fitting for the vacuum advance. He may not use the vacuum advance, as the use of the blue coil suggests that he added a high performance centrifical advance distributor. He does not mention any carb or intake modification.
In the video from the news broadcast, the alternator-electric motor combo are clearly visable behind the driver. It is so interesting that Stan did not try to cover this up to hide his secret. The other alternator is also still on the motor as before. He has one stock generator, two alternators- one controlled by engine rpm, one controlled by an electric motor, rpm unknown and maybe variable. I would like to know how he powered the electric motor, was it with an invertor and the motor mounted alternator? Or was it a dc motor that ran from the alternator it was driving, with the same current first, or lastly, passing through the cell?
Ultimately, it certainly appears that this device is not as technologically sophistacated as many on these forums seem to therorize. Remember, this is the 70's, Stan used a simple VW, and most agree he does not appear to be a great scientist.
A good rule of thumb is to do as the teacher does, not as he says.
Bill