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Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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ravzz

Hi Dyamios.....youre free to air your views about physics and thermodynamics!!......have you heard about plasma electrolysis??



Japanese Hokkaido University experiment which achieved some mind boggling results and was also replicated by JL Naudin...

These guys went OU with the generation of Hydrogen. Their experiment and results link

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTgeneration.pdf

As per their conclusions: 'current efficiency' is 8000% to the input!!!


I'm not here to argue wether things work as per the preset laws of physics or thermodynamics but you need to keep an open mind to evolve and see if something actually works.......I'm and engineer and been taught that things dont work if you break the laws....well I know my laws...thank you.....I've been making cells for the last 8 years but now Ive got something that works......and if people want to replicate it they can im giving out info on how to do it.....if they dont want to.....fine by me!....im getting nothing nor losing any thing by this....Stan wanted to sell his units......well im not.......this is for the people who are already trying it out and who want to....

Now the reason why i wanted to post the replication info.......(Ive posted the following for Bob Boyce on oupower)....


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Its time we did something about the environmental mess the world is in.....its accelerating by the year and it wouldnt be long before that the powers be would realize that most of these changes are irreversible ......Vanishing Glaciers......melting polar caps.....Europe has seen the hottest summers in living memory.......and now Asia is going through the worst floods in the living memory.......we are heading for a disaster and have already reached a point of no return with the fossil fuel addiction.......time we make ourselves count....by helping others to make this technology feasible and easy to replicate......whatever small contribution.....no matter how much ever small to improve the air we breathe would go a long way for our childrens future......


We need people to know this side of science before its too late.......look at the change in the environment in the last 100 years......in the garb of development were ruining the world we live in for the future generations and we are shown a picture of development as prosperity.....actual fact being more the prosperity more we ruin the environment for our creature comforts......its a vicious cycle....we could introduce the alternate science at places where its hurting the environment the most atleast in a small way....

Bob lets see how they take this experiment and what they make of it...I wouldnt be surprised if some hooter comes onto the forum and starts rubbishing the work to make atleast a few people stay away from experimenting this setup....

I'm just hoping that the risk im taking in teaching people how to make this expt work wouldnt be for nothing!! I've been through some harassment before and can go through some more if its for the greater good.
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Guys ive posted all the info needed for replication if you want to or not is upto you!.....well my work here is done!!

GOOD LUCK!!

ravzz

Tha JLN Labs Replication of plasma electrolysis Link:


http://jlnlabs.online.fr/cfr/diycfr/cfrg01.htm


and quite a few others who have replicate the same......


http://jlnlabs.imars.com/cfr/index.htm

wizkycho2

Quote from: ravzz on August 20, 2007, 04:11:27 AM
Hi Dyamios.....youre free to air your views about physics and thermodynamics!!......have you heard about plasma electrolysis??



Japanese Hokkaido University experiment which achieved some mind boggling results and was also replicated by JL Naudin...

These guys went OU with the generation of Hydrogen. Their experiment and results link

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTgeneration.pdf

As per their conclusions: 'current efficiency' is 8000% to the input!!!


I'm not here to argue wether things work as per the preset laws of physics or thermodynamics but you need to keep an open mind to evolve and see if something actually works.......I'm and engineer and been taught that things dont work if you break the laws....well I know my laws...thank you.....I've been making cells for the last 8 years but now Ive got something that works......and if people want to replicate it they can im giving out info on how to do it.....if they dont want to.....fine by me!....im getting nothing nor losing any thing by this....Stan wanted to sell his units......well im not.......this is for the people who are already trying it out and who want to....

Now the reason why i wanted to post the replication info.......(Ive posted the following for Bob Boyce on oupower)....


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Its time we did something about the environmental mess the world is in.....its accelerating by the year and it wouldnt be long before that the powers be would realize that most of these changes are irreversible ......Vanishing Glaciers......melting polar caps.....Europe has seen the hottest summers in living memory.......and now Asia is going through the worst floods in the living memory.......we are heading for a disaster and have already reached a point of no return with the fossil fuel addiction.......time we make ourselves count....by helping others to make this technology feasible and easy to replicate......whatever small contribution.....no matter how much ever small to improve the air we breathe would go a long way for our childrens future......


We need people to know this side of science before its too late.......look at the change in the environment in the last 100 years......in the garb of development were ruining the world we live in for the future generations and we are shown a picture of development as prosperity.....actual fact being more the prosperity more we ruin the environment for our creature comforts......its a vicious cycle....we could introduce the alternate science at places where its hurting the environment the most atleast in a small way....

Bob lets see how they take this experiment and what they make of it...I wouldnt be surprised if some hooter comes onto the forum and starts rubbishing the work to make atleast a few people stay away from experimenting this setup....

I'm just hoping that the risk im taking in teaching people how to make this expt work wouldnt be for nothing!! I've been through some harassment before and can go through some more if its for the greater good.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Guys ive posted all the info needed for replication if you want to or not is upto you!.....well my work here is done!!

GOOD LUCK!!

Dyiamios should know that everything in universe is capable of resonating, even the energy itself.
Let's talk about laws:
Still in hydrogen production (by means of electrolysis of water) science is using Faraday's law that uses only current strenght as relevant for ammount hydrogen produced.
This Faraday law can be seen here in action
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1245.0.html        130W

But this pulsed (probably resonating) setup proves that Faradays law can not be applied with pulsed DC:
production of O2 H2 is allmost identicall with 1A as I am producing at 30A.

@Ravzz, can you please give some more data (voltage, frequency...)
Are Coils needed ?

igor knitel

ravzz

Hi Igor,

I've posted a lot of data on the following link...theres everything you need to replicate in the discussion page

http://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1602



incase this link doesnt work then go here to the main page for hydrogen forums

http://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1


then go to 'Ravi's Meyer Replication - Tap water to H2'


Most of the questions you might have would have already been answered there....incase you need to know something else post it here or on the oupower forum so that I wouldnt have to answer the same thing again.





ravzz

Hi Igor,

You seem to be using brute force el'sys....instead of 5 V try going down to 2 V which is practically sufficient in this kind of electrolysis..... or you could try Bob Boyce's devices......theyre pretty efficient...


http://pesn.com/2007/01/08/9500445_Bob_Boyce_Electrolyzer_Plans/

http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Bob_Boyce_Electrolyzer_Plans


Theyre all on public domain.....free to replicate.