Rotational PMM by wizkycho

[wizkycho]

Correct me when i'm wrong.
The inner magnet will follow the shield "abyss" because of repel to the outer magnets. But: The shield steal will also went towards the highest magnetic attraction and this position is where outermagnets+innermagnets provide strongest magnetic strenght. The further away the shield moves from this point, the more energy is used to move it.

Am i ignoring some facts about the shield?

-- Andi

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Output Rotor acts on Input Rotor (shield) only with very small or even none attraction. So there is no high magnetic attraction only small or none.(looks and talks funny but it's true) when shield is remowed system opens for outside ringmagnet repel. REPULSION actually WORKS FROM THE OUTSIDE and different vector than attraction. and attraction vector is allways small.
TWO ROTORS ARE NOT ON THE SAME SHAFT. ENERGY ACTALLY FLOWS FROM PERMANENT MAGNET

carefully analyse Hill and Walley picture.

[wizkycho]

Correct me when i'm wrong.
The inner magnet will follow the shield "abyss" because of repel to the outer magnets. But: The shield steal will also went towards the highest magnetic attraction and this position is where outermagnets+innermagnets provide strongest magnetic strenght. The further away the shield moves from this point, the more energy is used to move it.

Am i ignoring some facts about the shield?

-- Andi

shield will not go towards output rotor magnet cause theirs mutual attraction is small or none in every position (allways) of shield
in respect to output rotor magnet.

[ooandioo]

Ok, if the inner magnet really not provides an attraction (or small) to the shield, then i'm with you. But, i need to understand why it doesn't attract. The outer magnets attracts the shield the same way, the inner magnet does - why not 

-- Andi

[m668004]

@ooandioo

To understand I've made a test. Please look at the picture. If you take a very thin peace of steel and then hold this in front of a pole of a strong magnet, then you have weakened the repelling forces but not neutralize them or turn it into attraction. So if you hold now another magnet with the same pol to the shielded magnet, they both repell each other but not as strong as without the shielding. And more is not needed. For this test it's important that the shielding is closer to the shielded magnet, so in no way we have attraction to the other magnet.

M.

[ooandioo]

Ok, i know this phenomen.
But - the more far away you put the inner magnet from the shield (in order to kill attraction), the less a repelling to the shield magnets occur. Perhaps forces are equal...

-- Andi