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MRA -Magnetic Resonance Amplifier

Started by ashtweth_nihilisti, August 29, 2007, 01:52:29 AM

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ashtweth_nihilisti

Guys i got some interesting info from Joel, it will be in the new MRA document on the uni site shortly.
Now that i have made a point about skeptics, and those not building this.

We found we cold light up 8 LED's normal brightness - They are typically rated for 15-20mA typical
Here are the specs as we ALREADY mentioned in the video.

got http://www.jaycar.com.au/ put on on top left.
CAT. NO. ZD0150

This is very encouraging so we are onto the other tests, one suggested we try using a C MOS chip for an oscillator circuit. They will run at
less then 2ma with no load on the output, as part of a looped MRA.

More test to come.
?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm

Koen1

Hmm... I also don't see why you do feel the need to type
several posts repeating that you're not going to give any
clear info and that all info was already given in the video...
You would have been much easier off simply stating the
measurement data from the video. After all, it's your video,
you know your own data. Once would have been enough.
But now you chose to post several messages repeating that
you're not going to do that. Which cost you more effort.

Also, why do you feel the need to use such an unfriendly tone?
Nobody here attacked you nor was anyone here unfriendly to you.
A more civil tone would be nice.

Anyway, to get back to your experiment, are you absolutely sure
you're getting constant DC out?
I mean, there is such a thing as the Joule Thief and that simple
little circuit can light a white LED to full brightness from a
"dead" 1,5V source battery. LED won't light when you connect
it normally, way too little voltage and current. But when you
connect it via the JT circuit, it lights up to full brightness.
Even though the battery can never power the LED directly.
Are you very certain that your LEDs aren't lighting up
due to a similar trick?
Main point, in case you missed it, is that lighting a bunch of LEDs
from a source that does not put out enough DC to actually
light them up at all, has been achieved by using Joule Thief
and similar circuits, and that does not mean there is any OU in
those circuits.
It's just smart switching.
So assuming that LEDs only light up when the DC output has been
amplified by OU means is not automatically correct: the LEDs may
also light up when a non-OU Joule Thief like trick is used.

With high frequency switching, it seems to me that might still be
a possibility here.

And obviously lighting up 8 LEDs with the input energy that should
only suffice to light up one single LED is 7 LEDs gain. :)
So yeah, you're getting more light out. Not necessarily more DC,
but more light, yes, I'll believe that. :)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it is impossible that you're
actually getting real OU from it, I'm just saying that you don't seem
to have considered the Joule Thief view in your assessment that more
LEDs must mean more DC output.


Anothertruthfinder

Hi all  ;D i'm new to this thread but i thought i'd interject some data - ive done similar experiments along the reasonance princple in coils etc.
   once i had a setup that was basically an output from my pc soundcard (sblive5.1) with bass reduced right down and treble 85%, master and wave about 95% using tone generator software, i put the stereo live together to make mono and grounds together this is also the main ground - i wrapped a basic primary(ring) coil about 2 inch diameter 26 gauge(100 turns) then a secondary, same diameter, gauge but 60 turns instead. the soundcard output went straight into the primary coil and the secondary coil rested exactly flat over the top of it. The secandary coil then went into a 'charge pump/free electric from thin air' circuit. i realised it wasnt a pure clean signal but got some interesting results just from that simple setup, this was using cheap analgue meter using 15khz sine i got about 4 volts at 30 milliamps from soundcard directly (straight over the ground and live) and my output from the 'charge pump' circuit 21 volts dc and 45 ac @ 50 milliamps? . i had about 50 blue leds about so i tested the soundcard directly - in series it lit two only quite brightly though ( that correlates to led op voltage), i did at least 8 in series from my secondary and added more to them in parallel - all not quite full brightness but dam close. using a standard transformer added to this i have seen 350/400 volts ac - i put a 400 volt cap in parallel at the 350/400ac output waited about 5 seconds and it would just make  enough juice to flicker a cfl for a few seconds! - just been reading this thread and might go back to the previous work - by the way that 'charge pump/free electric from thin air circuit' is very handy simple thing to have about not just for this.

hope i havent bored anyone too much, keep the work going and getting hands dirty guys - stick to the path, beware the moors, remember the alamo! and free that energy!

p.s. aka - eel  ;)

Grumpy

Here is some interesting MRA "data":
http://www.earthtech.org/experiments/mra/mra.txt

QuoteConclusion

Based on the results of our experimentation and analysis we find
that the MRA device provided by McClain and Wooten does not
produce over-unity-efficiency results.  The MRA circuit behaves
instead as one would expect of a loaded transformer with a series
capacitor in the primary circuit.  When the MRA is detuned from
resonance to frequencies slightly below resonance, the observed
changes may give the impression that the MRA then draws unusually
little power from the source while nonetheless maintaining a
healthy output. This impression is false.  True power
measurements show that the MRA continues to draw about twice as
much power from the source as it delivers to the load.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

ashtweth_nihilisti

Hi Grumpy and truth finder, thanks for the input, you can find updated info (such as what you posted) in the panacea university MRA document. Just ignore post like those above you for the time being, they will soon be deleted and only replicators or information will be allowed , or this thread will be deleted and ill send you the the location where you can monitor results.

Ash
?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm