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Burning hho safely for heating / water heating?

Started by Davetech, September 03, 2007, 06:34:27 AM

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Davetech

Greetings intrepid inventors and experimenters! 

I have recently discovered this forum by way of very interesting tube videos and after reading back-posts for the last three days, I admit I am fascinated by your quest.  I have already whipped up a quick and dirty cell which produced a lot more gas than I actually expected from a single 4" SS pipe-within-a-pipe design @ 12v drawing 2.4 amps.

My question:  Back in April, Stefan started a thread entitled "Building an easy heater from burning H2 + O2" and it did not get too much in the way of answers. I'm quite interested in building one myself. I didn't bump the post because it was so old and many forums get upset when you bump up an old post. So I just decided to ask... if anyone has plans on building such, hopefully with ideas on safety devices as well.

I have a decent little shop out back, with oxy/acetyline, and am retired from electronics repair industry, was a ham radio operator until the internet spoiled it for me... so I'm pretty good with my hands and can fabricate.

Thanks in advance
Davetech


hansvonlieven

G'day Davetech,

Having worked with hydrogen over a number of years (we were using it to melt prescious metals) on a first impression I would say that the flame burns too hot for what you have in mind. After all it is the hottest flame known to man. You would be better off to use air instead of oxygen. Having said that I would be interested to have a talk with you on the subject of dissociating water.

Have a look at my website http://www.keelytech.com where you might find a few things of interest in relation to this, especially as you have some good grounding in RF technology and transmitters and obviously understand resonance.

If you are interested drop me line, my E-mail is on the site.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Davetech

Hello Hans,

Thank you for your invitation to your site. I have visited, and spent about four hours slowly and carefully reading about Keely's work and your excellent interpretation of his work. I must admit, I had never heard of the man, but I found his story and possible accomplishments very interesting.

I recommend your site to anyone who is trying to shake hydrogen loose from oxygen by resonant means whether it be electromagnetic or accoustic. It might make new ideas present themselves.

I will be emailing you soon, Hans. I understood most of the underlying ideas, but am foggy on some, and found Keely's own writings largely incomprehensible due to his use of jargon and the scientific terminology being used 125 years ago.

hansvonlieven

G'day Davetech,

Thanks for your kind words. I am looking forward to your E-mail

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

PolyMatrix

I have been having similar thoughts on heating water, but only as an easy (hopfully!) or posible demonstration of overunity.

Does anybody know what happens when you run cold water through, for example, a copper pipe that is being heated by a hho torch?

We know how much energy it takes to rase water through one degree. We know how much energy it takes to split HHO with these new techniques. So it should be a fairly straight forward calculation to demostrate overunity is real!