Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator

[Humbugger]

I have read and viewed nearly everything Ashtweth's group Panacea BOCAF has published.  I've been consistently disappointed by a lack of good reporting on forward energy flow.  The rest of it is not coherent or meaningful to me.  Possibly that is my own shortcoming; obviously I don't think so.

If other fellows really understand this stuff and find meaning, useful knowledge and substance there, more power to you all!  It seems that my Earth-bound comments, my pointed questions and requests for hard data make Ashtweth and a few others feel very hostile and uncomfortable and are vehemently despised. 

I intend to keep my future observations short and to the point if I offer them at all.  I have a new policy on purely skeptical posts where I don't have any questions to ask.  It's described below, in the signature area.



"Where reality-checks cannot be tolerated, no advance of useful knowledge occurs and charlatans eventually prevail."  ~    Humbugger

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

To Clarify for the Board. (and those who haven't read the compilations)

The measurement technique of the Neon switcher into charging a secondary battery (for free) and construction details is clearly presented and can be understood via conventional engineering, how ever whats going on cannot.

The measurement technique of the prony break test and construction details is clearly presented and can be understood via conventional engineering, how ever whats going on cannot.
Those that wish to replicate and confirm results are welcome.

This information is presented in the compilations and is based on replicated reports.
Our results will be added shortly.

regards
ashtweth

[Mem]

I have read and viewed nearly everything Ashtweth's group has published.  I've simply been disappointed by a lack of honest reporting of any real forward energy flow.  The rest of it is not coherent or meaningful to me.  Possibly that is my own shortcoming; obviously I don't think so.

If other fellows really understand this stuff and find meaning, useful knowledge and substance there, more power to you all!  It seems that my Earth-bound hardnosed comments, my pointed questions and requests for hard data make Ashtweth and others feel very uncomfortable and are unwelcome. 

I intend to keep my future observations very short and to the point if I offer them at all.  Where reality-checks cannot be tolerated, no advance of useful knowledge occurs. 



Humbugger

<<Hum,
Don't take it personal when some one comments on quotes. Without the refiners fire we can't saparate gold from impuritys...

You said: [I have read and viewed nearly everything Ashtweth's group has published.  I've simply been disappointed by a lack of honest reporting of any real forward energy flow.  The rest of it is not coherent or meaningful to me.]

I personaly and stronly feel that, you post yous comments without any hesitation what so ever and let the chips fall where they may!
This is an open form, where "all " creativity should flow without any restriction or hesitation.

"reality-checks" are like a quality controll and we can't effort not to have it!   

Mem>>

[Humbugger]

@Mem

Thanks for your kind words of courage.  I am severely outnumbered but not intimidated.

Humbugger

[Humbugger]

To Clarify for the Board. (and those who haven't read the compilations)

The measurement technique of the Neon switcher into charging a secondary battery (for free) and construction details is clearly presented and can be understood via conventional engineering, how ever whats going on cannot.

The measurement technique of the prony break test and construction details is clearly presented and can be understood via conventional engineering, how ever whats going on cannot.
Those that wish to replicate and confirm results are welcome.

This information is presented in the compilations and is based on replicated reports.
Our results will be added shortly.

regards
ashtweth

What I said stands firmly after reading again these references:  "I've simply been disappointed by a lack of honest reporting of real forward energy flow."  Page 30 describes how to test the neon switcher.

There is no statement there of how much energy is expected, claimed or actually delivered into the battery.  This is not an adequate measurement technique for a device whose only claimed attribute is delivering energy to a battery.  You are supposed to listen and observe shaft speed to see if this huge 7.5HP motor bogs down while you supply an unmeasured amount of so-called free energy to an unspecified battery.

Page 23, where a Phil Wood circuit is described and tested is no better.  One sentence about testing, only one sentence:  "Under test, driving a fan, the motor draws a maximum of 117W and a variable speed 600W drill was used for the DC load".  Period...  No statement as to how much energy was being consumed by this drill anywhere or if it was even turned on, for how long, at what speed and under what mechanical load.  Zip...just the worst-case max power rating read off the nameplate.

It is exactly this kind of testing and reporting that I have consistently complained about. These are not isolated examples, this is the norm for Ashtweth's stuff and for lots of others making audacious claims.  Stating the nameplate rating on a tool used as a load is not an adequate measurement technique. 

Throughout the Panacea material, there is a clear and unmistakable implication if not the outright claim of overunity performance being repeatedly achieved.  This is combined with a consistent lack of valid measurement technique and the absence of reported test data.  What's up with that?

The "replication" spoken of in genuine scientific research involves testing to see if you can observe the same results.  If no results are specificied by the original presenter, what purpose is there in replicating?

Humbugger


P.S.  I am not going to make a career of blasting Ashtweth's methods here.  I have said my bit and I stand on it.  I hope Stefan and some of the others here will try to keep him in touch with reasonable testing and reporting methods.  If I see something outrageous from now on I'll just post the terse quote and one 
Then only if someone inquires as to why exactly I'm rolling my eyeballs will I venture to explain.  Think of the bandwidth Stefan will save!