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Chas Campbell Flywheel Generator

Started by wattsup, September 09, 2007, 12:42:30 PM

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hartiberlin

Hi Ash,
it would be good, if your group or Mark could
test this again with the right measurement methods,
so we are sure that the flywheel-generator setup is underunity or overunity.

It does not make much sense, when indeed it will
come out to be underunity and some people put lots of money
into replication and then they also only get underunity.

So it would be best, if your group or Mark with NEC would
do the required tests, so we can finally have an answer,
if this is a road to go further into or look elsewhere.

Are you going again to Chas?s place to do more tests
or is there no apointment yet ?

When do you expect to have the other 3 videos online ?
Many thanks again.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

ashtweth_nihilisti

HI Stefan, your right as always, i feel we need a research and development center and  thats what the non profit org is attempting to do as you know.

Okay , no not yet  i can make an appointment as soon as Mark wishes if he wants, Chas is alway open to letting us sniff around, and use it as an R and D tool. Soon as i get the resistors ill make one.

Okay there is only two video's left, one is the technical one which doesn't show any measurements, and the other is the panacea production evaluation based on what we have seen so far. We still need to heavily edit these so maybe by next week :-\, we need 78 hours in the day as yo know ;D

mean time if Mark wishes to bring in any equipment i can speak to Chas,





?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm

wattsup

@Ash

Some constructive critisism (hopefully). lol

To much of the flywheel video was looking at the ground, someones ass,  feet, the cap box, but none was concentrated on the flywheel itself. It would be good to see the flywheel turning with 0 load on the Alt, from all angles in order to get an idea on the actual movement, since beyond all the RVing possible, the movement itself is the main source of any potential OU.

Without RV,  (V/A = volts/amps)

- measure V/A of the drive motor only at no load (no pulley strap),
- then add the pulley strap to the drive but remove the pulley strap from the Alt - Measure V/A of the drive
- then add the pulley strap to the alt but with no load  - Measure V/A of the drive
- then add a small load to the Alt  - Measure V/A of the drive and the Alt
- then add another small load to the Alt  - Measure V/A of the drive and the Alt
- then add another small load to the Alt  - Measure V/A of the drive and the Alt
- repeat this until the drive stops.
This chart of results will be very revealing for the movement potential of Chas' design.

You can then do the same (exact) load additions with the RV and make a second chart for comparison.

In both cases, if it is possible to video the flywheel as the load is being added, to see the effect of the load on the wheel, this would be extremely good to see, especially when reviewing the video afterwards in slow motion.

This is the only way to really understand what's happening and where there is weakness in Chas' design.

All the best.

ltseung888

Quoted from http://forum.go-here.nl/viewtopic.php?p=288#288

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Let us talk more about the rotational speed of the Pulse Motor

(1)   Assume that the gained energy can be stored in the rotating cylinder.  See the explanation in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotational energy
I = moment of inertia
w = angular velocity
v = Linear velocity of the Rolling Cylinder
Mc = Mass of Cylinder
Energy of a rotating cylinder = 1/2 x I x w x w
= Translational energy = 1/2 x Mc x v x v

(2)   If the Pulse Energy and the Lead Out Gravitational Energy were added to the rotating cylinder, it would rotate faster. One of the most important factors determining how much Gravitational Energy can be Lead Out is the rotational speed.

(3)   We can assume that at equilibrium, some of the Output Energy is fed back to supply the Pulse.  The remaining will be used to overcome friction and do useful work.  In that case, the rotational speed of the Cylinder should be constant.

(4)   If the external Load increases, the Pulse Rate or similar should increase to Lead Out additional Gravitational Energy.  If that is not done, energy will be drained from the rotating cylinder and the rotational speed will decrease.  The decrease will further reduce the Lead Out Energy.  If this is not taken care of, the system will quickly slow down.

(5)   If the external Load decreases, the Pulse Rate or similar should decrease to Lead Out less Gravitational Energy. If that is not done, energy will accumulate and the rotational speed of the cylinder will increase.  This increase will further increase the Lead Out Energy.  If this is not taken care of, the system will rotate faster and resonate itself to destruction.

Most Over Unity Developers do not understand (4) and (5).  They might hit on the resonance conditions by luck and might even observe Over Unity for a short period under certain conditions. However, they could play with the invention for years without making it Over Unity for a workable range.  Thus programs or mechanisms to cater for (4) and (5) must be in place. 

It appears to me that the Chas Campbell Flywheel has not catered for (4) and (5).  Much more work is required.

Lawrence Tseung
Energy Consideration of Pulsed Rotation Leads Out programs or mechanisms to adjust the rotational speed.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

shruggedatlas

Quote from: ltseung888 on September 20, 2007, 09:26:12 PM
(5)   If the external Load decreases, the Pulse Rate or similar should decrease to Lead Out less Gravitational Energy. If that is not done, energy will accumulate and the rotational speed of the cylinder will increase.  This increase will further increase the Lead Out Energy.  If this is not taken care of, the system will rotate faster and resonate itself to destruction.

So you are saying that under your theory, the device should have resonated itself to destruction (or at least resonated faster)?  Because that clearly did not happen.