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WFC Tubes conditioning

Started by Duranza, September 10, 2007, 12:37:03 PM

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Duranza

Yes there are 4 leads. Outside ones are to negative cell tube and pulse positive in, and the inside are to positive cell and negative pulse in.
The only way to Validate is to Replicate!

Duranza

My next step is to make 2 bifilar pancakes side by side. One for each electrode and connect them like tesla's patent. That should be interesting.
The only way to Validate is to Replicate!

RunningBare

Quote from: Duranza on September 10, 2007, 12:37:03 PM
Here are some pictures of my tubes with the white powdery coating on them. I conditioned them for 4 hours @ 12v 1A. I changed the water every 20 mins and let the tubes dry in front of a fan for 10 mins. I have also included a picture of my old setup that i tryed to condition without taking them out to dry and they just turned black. So the key here is to let them dry so that the coating has time to form.

I found the same thing with regards to leaving the tubes in the water, in the last 24 hours after redoing my tubes(cleaning and annealing) I've built up quite an oxide layer, I also discovered another interesting but undesirable effect, if you have the current below a certain threshold(less than 300ma in my case) then the crud starts badly, I've found that around 300 to 350ma for 30 minutes then dried over a stove to be very effective at building up good oxide layers.

Duranza

Quote from: RunningBare on September 11, 2007, 11:47:54 PM
Quote from: Duranza on September 10, 2007, 12:37:03 PM
Here are some pictures of my tubes with the white powdery coating on them. I conditioned them for 4 hours @ 12v 1A. I changed the water every 20 mins and let the tubes dry in front of a fan for 10 mins. I have also included a picture of my old setup that i tryed to condition without taking them out to dry and they just turned black. So the key here is to let them dry so that the coating has time to form.

I found the same thing with regards to leaving the tubes in the water, in the last 24 hours after redoing my tubes(cleaning and annealing) I've built up quite an oxide layer, I also discovered another interesting but undesirable effect, if you have the current below a certain threshold(less than 300ma in my case) then the crud starts badly, I've found that around 300 to 350ma for 30 minutes then dried over a stove to be very effective at building up good oxide layers.



That's right on, but also do not go over 4 amps or the coating will flake off... I had an OOps last night trying to build it up some more with higher amps but it just flaked off like dandruf lol....
The only way to Validate is to Replicate!

Gheller J

Threz a lot unsaid so try follow d conditionin process given by Ravi

>>>>Dats why Ravi's conditionin process has a max of 3 Amps!!


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Given procedure:

1. Donot use any resistance on the negative side when conditioning the pipes.

2. Start at 0.5 Amps on freq gen and switch off after 25 mins for 30 mins

3. Goto 1.0 Amps for 20 min and stop for 30 min

4. Goto 1.5 Amps for 15 min and stop for 20 min

5. Goto 2.0 Amps for 10 min and stop for 20 min

6. Goto 2.5 Amps for 5 min and stop for 15 min

7. Goto 3.0 Amps for 120 to 150 secs. need to check if WFC getting hot...if it does you need to reduce the time.

AFTER THE 7 STEPS ABOVE LET THE WFC STAND FOR ATLEAST AN HOUR BEFORE YOU START ALL OVER AGAIN.

You would hardly see any gas generation at the beginning but it makes a lot of brown muck.....change the water after every cycle initially. DONOT touch the tubes with bare hands if the tube ends need to be cleaned of muck use a brush but donot touch!! As per my experience the brown muck if left in water for the next cycle heats up the water and you need to avoid this.

Then you see the reduction in generation of the brown stuff over a period of time and at a point the pipes dont make any brown stuff atall. You would have had very good generation of gas by now. You get a whitish powdery coat on the surfaces. Never touch the pipes with bare hands once this comes on.

DO THE CONDITIONING IN A WELL VENTILATED AREA OR PREFERRABLY CLOSE THE TOP AND VENT THE GAS OUT IN THE OPEN.

AS THE WFC IS LEFT ON FOR QUITE SOMETIME EVEN SMALL AMOUNT OF GENERATION CAN GET ACCUMULATED IN A CONSTRICTED SPACE AND COULD BE A HAZARD.



The above process to be done after annealing the pipes....see to it that no oxide formation is left on the pipes...use a detergent to wash off the pipes and rinse them thoroughly with fresh water.....assemble the setup including the leads and base.....finally flush the pipes with lots of fresh water......donot touch the pipes with bare hands after this.......


Good Luck and happy conditioning......RAVI 

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::) Gh. J.