ER1200 water torch

[Prophmaji]

I have a ER 1200 water torch, and it has been upgraded to a ER1600 with a few extra capacitors. This unit will, under optimum 'fill' (amount of water in it) conditions, produce up to 1600 liters of HHO per hour.

If you come up with a relatively interesting experiment, I can carry it out, here on the forum. Complete with photos, etc. This may be used to answer a question or two you may have about what exactly browns gas, or HHO can actually do-or not do.

Let me know. (post your request here)

[btester1]

It would be interesting to see some kind of heating experiment.

I'm wondering how much hho to heat a cup of water. How fast.

Can you make your own heater to heat a house.

What kind of materials heat up faster, as in making a heating element of some sort.

Good idea anyway.

[Prophmaji]

water and metals are difficult to heat.

High resitstance materials heat INCREDIBLY fast.

I've had magnesium alloy glow super white hot, like a solar flare....but NEVER dissapear or melt. It bubbles to a foamy likeÃ,  material, about three times it's original size.It goes to being like a little light rock, to being like a mini-wheat cereal bit. (ie foamed corn syryp and solids)

Glass, being of high resistance, practically explodes as the 'flame' touches it. Quartz does the same.

Water will boil away very very slowly. I've spent over 1/2 hour attempting to boil a cup (8 ounces/250-275ml) of water. This is seemingly due to it being conductive and a hydrodynamic fluid.

Copper, steel, but most specifically pure elements, are the hardest to heat. Most specifically, elements that are electrically transmissive in their solidus phase.

Ceramics, etc, anything highly resistive, and has a high resistence in the liquidus phase (above melting point) are nearly explosive and emit great huge gobs of white light, ie, incredibly bright. With the right light sensor and neutral filter...it can be used to do element analysis. The kind that cannot be done in any other way.

Tungsten goes to it's oxidized phase immediately, and the rest of the rod remains unchanged. Only the tungsten immediately near the flame is oxidized,and turned into a oxide and 'gas'. So, it's a very, very, very slow -'straight to gaseous phase' situation with tungsten. Which supports the idea that HHO CANNOT sublimate tungsten, or, that it does..but ONLY via oxidation.

Everything indicates that it actually IS a 'molecular spin down' plasma energy that heats via 'ajacent to that molecule it is tearing apart' - thermal addition.

What I mean is that the material being worked on by the 'flame' in the immediate sense, tears away from the main mass, is oxidized, via this 'molecular spin down effect' and the thermal effects are occurring in the ajacent molecular structures, via radiation from the materials that are being broken down. The evidence of the tungsten rod supports this effect, same as that of water.

I've created some bizzare alloys via this device, even rubies when messing with copper and silicates.

Ie, glassy copper alloys Or, if you will transparent copper.


The HHO gas returns to atomic from expanded mono-atomic state-electrical plasma flame-but at at individual atomic structure dynamic fluid state effect, thus the 'flame' effect.

So, an electrical fluid propogation through the expanded gas, as a 'shock wave'....popping all the gaseous expanded HHO, in a dynamic flow fluid effect. The flame is electrical in nature, and it is energy release from the reduction from expansion back to the 'normal' state. HHO self collapes, above about 21 PSI. It is quite explosive at this point but it is a collapsing effect, endothermic, not exothermic. The plasma flame that HHO is, has been found to run at about 8500m/second. (the collapsing wave function of the electrical transfer in the expanded fluid)

[Davetech]

Thanks Prophmaji,

That was very interesting. Can the flame be used to "drill" holes in glass, with little heating to the surrounding glass and, thus, less chance of breaking the object by thermal stresses?

[btester1]

Is it possible to heat a high resistive material which in turn heats up the water in a cup for example.
Or will the material break down under the flame.
Ceramic I would have thought worked but it looks like it completely destroys it.
Maybe it's good to experiment with different elements.

I know it might be expensive undertaking. But take some radioactive material and see if stops it.
Get a geiger counter, before and after. That would be interesting to see.