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new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion

Started by usama salah, September 15, 2007, 05:01:16 PM

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hansvonlieven

G'day usama and all,

Quote from: usama salah on September 18, 2007, 09:36:57 AM
Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 18, 2007, 04:04:02 AM


If you know lots of ways in which to move 1kg perpendicularly up 1000 cm (which incidentally is 10 meters) and expend less than 98 J you are the greatest sensation on this planet since the famous Eureka.



of course, i know a lot
10 meters means about 4 floors , you can go upstairs to the fourth floor , send a sling down to street , tied the sling to any stake.
go down stair to street , catch  the other side of the line and tied 1gk of any material.
go upstairs to the other end of the line and pull the 1gk up.
if you need more ways call me back

while figured it don't forget to calculate the effect of changing time at both sides , and the indirect force of pressure action.

for the future if the goods couldn't figured your puzzle out , then don't wait  the baddies .

That is NOT what I was talking about. Most idiots know how to transport 1 kg 10m up.

I said, if you can move 1 kg of mass perpendicularly up 10 meters with expending less than 98 Joules you are the greatest sensation on this planet since the famous Eureka.

I am still standing by that.

You should see the sense in what I am saying, unless you don't know what a Joule is, in which case the Eureka is probably over your head too.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

scotty1

Hi Hans....I think I should show you how to hold 45 metric tons in the air by drawing 1.5 amps from a 12 volt battery for one hour....How many joules is that? I can hold the weight for years...and then after all that time I can still get back much of the energy that I used....It's so easy, but too impractical to make full scale.
I can also show mechanical energy from the experiment everyday for as long as I hold the weight.
The experiment itself acts like a generator.... ;D
Cheers mate....
Scotty

usama salah

hi , Lieven
don't forget most idiots know that if you change the velocity to 10m/s or 1 m/s ,you will use less joules
Quote from: Mr.Entropy on September 16, 2007, 10:09:05 PM

The energy you get from the 100 1kg books falling 10cm is 100kg * 0.1m * 9.8 m/s2 = 98J.

The energy required to lift one book up 1000 cm is 1kg * 10m * 9.8 m/s2 = 98J.



the energy required to lift one book up 1000 cm is   1kg* 10m* 1 m/s2     = 10J


then you can gain 88 J  by mechanic transport 1kg up and  falldown 100kg at its gravity speed.

dear
idon' said throw the book up at your maximum speed or use the 100 books to move 1 book at the same time ,
also,who said that i tried to be the greatest sensation on this planet since the famous Eureka.
i know myself , i'm just a one found out a new way to get free energy by good luck ,not more and tried to do his best to understand and learn what is happen around ?

thanks p.motion for stoping
i hope you will be the one who can gain a true new idea to generat a free energe but don't forget me

shruggedatlas

Quote from: usama salah on September 19, 2007, 01:46:54 PM
hi , Lieven
don't forget most idiots know that if you change the velocity to 10m/s or 1 m/s ,you will use less joules
Quote from: Mr.Entropy on September 16, 2007, 10:09:05 PM

The energy you get from the 100 1kg books falling 10cm is 100kg * 0.1m * 9.8 m/s2 = 98J.

The energy required to lift one book up 1000 cm is 1kg * 10m * 9.8 m/s2 = 98J.



the energy required to lift one book up 1000 cm is   1kg* 10m* 1 m/s2     = 10J


then you can gain 88 J  by mechanic transport 1kg up and  falldown 100kg at its gravity speed.

dear
idon' said throw the book up at your maximum speed or use the 100 books to move 1 book at the same time ,
also,who said that i tried to be the greatest sensation on this planet since the famous Eureka.
i know myself , i'm just a one found out a new way to get free energy by good luck ,not more and tried to do his best to understand and learn what is happen around ?

thanks p.motion for stoping
i hope you will be the one who can gain a true new idea to generat a free energe but don't forget me


I think you missed something.  The 9.8 m/s2 is part of the equation because that is the acceleration speed of objects in Earth's gravity.  To change the equation using 1 m/s2 means that you are on a planet with roughly 1/10th of the earth's gravity.  This has nothing to do with how fast you lift the book.

Maybe that is the secret to making your device work.  Keep one half on earth and the other on the moon?

hansvonlieven

G'day Scotty and all,

I trust we are talking here of a device like Ed Leedskalnin's perpetual motion holder. Though this is a fascinating device, I don't know if we can talk in terms of Joules here. If you take a permanent magnet and stick it 10 feet up a perpendicular steel beam the 10 meter drop is not even potential energy as long as it sticks there.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx