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new powerfull gravity turbine at perpetual motion

Started by usama salah, September 15, 2007, 05:01:16 PM

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shruggedatlas

Yes, good call.  I figured it was because the heavy side would just slide over, but now I see it would not matter even if it did not.  I learn something every day.

usama salah

ok, that is good

let me adjust the question :
suppose we change the bottom book NO:1 and used aÃ,  water balloon as container of 1kg of water , that balloon linked to another empty one over the 100 books by pipe .

what kind of actions we have here :
Ã,  a- 100 book fall down for 10 cm that gain ??? of energy
Ã,  b- 1kg of water ( book or water or sand no problem) will pumped up for 1000cm used ???? of energy
Ã,  c- we used a mixed force and other properties and one of old simple mechanics .
Ã, 

i think there is a lot of way to move 1kg up to 1000 cm usingÃ,  less than 98j ,Ã,  also all this ways are  depending on gravity.


then i don't think about any sort of device because every oneÃ,  has a verey good idea , that agree with my device

Mr.Entropy

Quote from: usama salah on September 17, 2007, 08:59:08 PM
i think there is a lot of way to move 1kg up to 1000 cm using  less than 98j

Why do you think that?

hansvonlieven

G'day usama and all,

If you know lots of ways in which to move 1kg perpendicularly up 1000 cm (which incidentally is 10 meters) and expend less than 98 J you are the greatest sensation on this planet since the famous Eureka.

Please tell us some of your secrets, for the future cannot do with such a loss in case the baddies get to you. You owe it to the world!

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

usama salah

Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 18, 2007, 04:04:02 AM


If you know lots of ways in which to move 1kg perpendicularly up 1000 cm (which incidentally is 10 meters) and expend less than 98 J you are the greatest sensation on this planet since the famous Eureka.





of course, i know a lot
10 meters means about 4 floors , you can go upstairs to the fourth floor , send a sling down to street , tied the sling to any stake.
go down stair to street , catch  the other side of the line and tied 1gk of any material.
go upstairs to the other end of the line and pull the 1gk up.
if you need more ways call me back

while figured it don't forget to calculate the effect of changing time at both sides , and the indirect force of pressure action.

for the future if the goods couldn't figured your puzzle out , then don't wait  the baddies .


mr.entoropy

i don't means that, i'm sure ,i said just think like thinking about gravity wheel and flotation wheel
all of us must make our mind and  think

and tried the last question using 90 books while the other balloon at the10 meter .
do the same experiment until you figure out how much weight you need to  lift 1kg up for 1000cm.

you can also make the pipe more thin or wide it , all that effect your goal.
Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 16, 2007, 09:00:37 PM


As to your example of a stack of books you must consider the amount of force required to liberate the bottom book and allow the rest of the stack to drop. Don't forget in your calculation that the entire weight of the stack sits on it.

Hans von Lieven

the idea of the using a balloon  solved the problem as i understood.


thanks for all
and good bey

i hope any one gain some new idea