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Circuit setups for pulse motors

Started by Nastrand2000, September 16, 2007, 10:46:33 PM

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Ren

Hi Casman.

No worries, keep testin ;). HAve you ever built a window motor? I have chucked one together and I am getting very interesting results. Too soon yet to tell whats going on, I'll post some pics and progress soon.

hoptoad

Quote from: Ren on November 20, 2007, 04:00:39 PM
from my understanding it can be done either way, twisting ensures neatness, apart from that I am unsure if there is any other advantage. I probably wouldnt have twisted them if it was bi, but winding three separate wires trifilar was always going to be a bit messy.

Hi guys, I'm glad to see you're all still heads down, and workin on!

The twisting of wires when winding multi-filar coils is only necessary if your experiment requires that your coil has the barest minimum of inherent "winding to winding capacitance". When you twist the wires as you're winding them, the capacitance between windings is reduced because the wires are constantly crossing over and reversing the path of the electric field between them, causing the stray capacitance to "neutralize".

Cheers from the Toad who Hops

sanmankl

Quote from: hoptoad on October 30, 2007, 12:24:20 AM
Quote from: Ren on October 29, 2007, 05:06:37 PM
I want to personally thank you toadie on behalf of all visitors and regulars here for all your efforts and instructionals. I found your final page extremely interesting. It struck me how similar your dc pmm powered alternator is to this setup built by Bedini and Watson. They used a flywheel to keep inertial momentum and pulsed power to the dc pmm for some amazing results.

You have inspired me to experiment with something like this, time and finances providing. I wish you all the best and hope we see you from time to time in here. Dont be a stranger!

Hi Toadhop.

You have certainly revive my interest in Adams motor. I'd given up pursuing it a couple of months ago (expectations were different then). Your website explains it all. Great work! and big thanks.

BTW, what software do you use to draw up the drawings? I'm looking for something better tha ms-paint!

Again, thanks. sanmankl

hoptoad

Quote from: sanmankl on November 25, 2007, 11:00:41 AM

Hi Toadhop.

You have certainly revive my interest in Adams motor. I'd given up pursuing it a couple of months ago (expectations were different then). Your website explains it all. Great work! and big thanks.

BTW, what software do you use to draw up the drawings? I'm looking for something better tha ms-paint!

Again, thanks. sanmankl
That's HopToad BTW    LOL!
The drawings were done in Flash 5.0
They are actually swf files on my website, but the images can also be rendered as jpg, bitmap, etc.

A lot of programmers don't like Flash, but as a drawing program, I really like it. Its very flexible and easy to use for simple drawing tasks.
It's actually a fully fledged compiler in a creative interactive animation context, but it's oh so many more things than that!

Flash is now up to Version 9 and is very expensive! If you want a really good grade Drawing/Photo imaging program then download the GIMP
Its free, powerful, and flexible. Just type GIMP in your favourite search engine and you'll find it. Theres also a free student version of CIRCUITMAKER available on the net. It's very useful for electronic layouts.

I'm glad you find my pages interesting. At some stage in a few months or so, work and time permitting, I will tidy up some of the explanations, and then add some more pages which will bring together all the little observations regarding "An Anomoly with Lenz's Law in an Open Magnetic System". When I do, I will give my "opinion" on how I think this anomoly actually occurs. At the moment, I'm very busy.

Cheers all from the Toad who Hops

Ren

Flash is a great program Toadie, when I did graphic design  I used it a few times for various animated sequences. Adobe (now macromedia) Freehand and Illustrator are vector based drawing programs that I use for this type of stuff, they are a little more advanced however and can overwhelm and frustrate beginners.

Just wanted to post a note for Tropes, if he still visits here. I found an interesting link on another forum I frequent and it made me think of his piston driven device. Heres a quote with a link.

"I recently came across a web page on Naudin's website (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/2magpup.htm) which demonstrates the fact that the push pull force of a magnet is about 200% greater than the force exerted by it when sliding them over each other and proposes a method for building a self running magnet motor.

So this fact can also be used in electric motor design, because an electromagnet behaves so much like a normal magnet when current passes through it. To maximize torque we must use the most of the forces that the stator electromagnet on the rotor (attraction or repulsion makes no difference).

The main trick is to use the most out of the magnetic field produced to maximize the mechanical output. Bob Teal's magnetic attraction motor was piston operated thus it was able to use all of the pull force of the electromagnet, which is more more than double the sliding force of it (according the Naudin's experiments), but rotary motors can utilize both the pulling force and the sliding force of it but both of them partially. That means it utilizes the both forces of the electromagnet but not all of the both forces some of the forces are wasted while exerting force on the crank shaft, I was wondering:
1- Does the torque produced in piston operated engines outweigh rotary motors?
2- How to increase the utilization of most of both magnetic forces to produce even more torque?"



I thought that he may find it of particular interest or inspiration.