Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.

[yaz]

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So I believe the control coils have to have a resonancy to something.
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Why not resonant with the collector?

Let me try a different approach to broaden our thinking:

Suppose the collector is a tuning fork.  How do you make it vibrate?

1. you bring another tuning fork of the same fundamental freq near the collector and the collector will start to ring too.
2. you smack the tuning fork (collector) and it will start to ring at it's own fundamental freq.
3. you make an air column (organ pipe) and blow air into it to resonate it at the fundamental of the fork (collector) and the collector rings

compiling these three into one we get something like "vibration of the medium will induce vibration in that which is tuned to the frequency of medium" (provided it can couple to the medium).  The medium for a tuning fork or air column is "air".

Once the "air" is vibrating, all forks within a suitable range will vibrate together - louder and louder - of course they have mass and eventually stop vibrating.

How do you vibrate the "medium" that encompasses the collector?

EDIT: use "dielectric" and you get the "magnetic" for free (via the propagating wave front ala disturbence in the medium) and you don't have to time it so critically

How do you vibrate the "medium" that encompasses the collector?

Lol,
the way we have been doing it all along! How does a tesla coil work? both primary and secondary are resonantly tuned. When we proad the first, does the second not sing? which brings me to a question maybe you guys can help me with....

the other day I tried to build a tesla coil.

I slaped together a primary, to a secondary I had laying around.

Put together all the fancy driving circuitry,

and tried different frequencies.

moderate results, more like failure, It did not work....................

Where did I go wrong?

Found a link ... Complete plans for a DIY Telsa Coil Tuner!

http://www.rmcybernetics.com/projects/DIY_Devices/homemade_tesla_coil_tuner.htm

[armagdn03]

Lol, I was alluding to what most tpu people do wrong, I didnt really build a tesla coil. The tuning circuit is nothing without the physical perameters

[Grumpy]

yup..

[armagdn03]

Lol, I was alluding to what most tpu people do wrong, I didnt really build a tesla coil. The tuning circuit is nothing without the physical perameters

The TPU and Tesla's Transformers are nothing without the "medium".

If the detectove work on the first TPU is correct and the control coils are "bifilar" (cancelling) - why?  The capacitance is increased and the inductance is cancelled.  Does this increase propagation velocity for the impulse in the control coils?

So, how do we "kick" the medium itself?

My friend, you are looking for the awnser where it cannot be found. the awnser is not complicated, it is not about "propagation velocity" the bifilar coil when coiled in the right way, is a capacitor rather than an inductor.....again.....and agian.....and agian....tesla already developed this technology....and gave it too us in his patents. why re-invent the wheel when we do not even understand it yet?

How do we kick the medium?.........again why look for complicated awnsers to very simple questions?

[giantkiller]

Happy Thanksgiving to those who partake.

--giantkilller. This one is definately life changing for me.