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TPU - General Discussion

Started by z_p_e, October 01, 2007, 11:32:43 PM

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BEP

@Wattsup and @poynt99

Your words are why I have a different understanding (right or wrong) about the meaning of collector.
To me 'collector' means the complete unit  - or as most define a TPU. Since I've come to believe this the supposed comments from Steven make much more sense. If you can, look at the descriptions my my perspective for a moment. If you do, you should then perceive different coil layouts and orientations.
Using the perceptions of most folks on the ''collector'' it always seemed the descriptions were contradictory and unclear. As an example: when speaking of winding a vertical wind does that mean wound horizontally around a vertical axis or wound vertically around a horizontal axis or even something else?

@Wattsup

Your transistor analogy is close enough. Your electrical knowledge certainly has greatly improved since my first time on this site. I commend you!
However the description you gave would be called an emitter follower switch or amplifier. It is normally a better bet to connect the load to the collector and voltage drops, losses and other things can happen with the load on the emitter. Of course, such a circuit is not uncommon and may be required in many cases.

The collector of a transistor should be analogous to the anode or plate of a vacuum tube. This metal piece was where the electrons were 'collected' after being 'emitted' by the cathode or heater. In between is the base which is called a gate in other SS and is almost the same funtion as a grid in a tube. (I know you and poynt know this but more than you read this forum  ;)

In SM's view the above may not be completely correct because some tubes actually have a part that is called a collector. It collects 'extra' radiated electrons that are 'kicked' off the plate by electrons ejected by the cathode. 'If' SM coined the phrase 'collector' I suspect this is why he used the term.


poynt99

geez, i wonder if i'm using a little too much juice for my kick testing  ???

:D :D :D :D :D
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

Simple Cheap Low Power Oscillators V2.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=248
Towards Realizing the TPU V1.4: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=217
Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments V1.0: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209

innovation_station

hey poynt throw some copper across it  to cut the electric flux lines.....

looks like positive seeking ground ...

ist

ok looking at your pic ...   this pops into my head ...

pos iron wire ring top   copper pancake middle  neg iron ring bottom   catch some as it passes from top to bottom

might this be why it does not work upside down ??

it will be seeking ground and the wrong way it will not travel through the collector but dirrectly to ground

does this sound close?

finally poynt i catch your drift duh!!!   lol

dump a cap to the iron lol    collector watch it spew every where   so you could pusle top and bottom seprate polarities
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

Jeff B

Sorry to interrupt guys -

I've been searching my system to find a link I had previously - all to no avail.  :-[
(Probably) around 2 years ago, there was a video from an older guy (American I think) who had a (form of) gravity engine.
From memory he had a working version in his shed, which turned very slowly (maybe 30-40Hz).
Then the video went on to show it in his pickup (moving slowly over a length).
(Possibly on Google Video).

AFTER this, he went on to give His Explanation of how Gravity worked.
It was all in relation to rotations etc, and his explanation was excellent.
I have a Vague feeling that you had to wait until approx 27 minutes into his video to get to this (I think it was 35-40 min long, but can't say with any certainty).

Does this ring a bell with anybody ?
Can anybody point me in the right direction. ???
I believe I originally got the video link from these forums, and figure that one of you guys would probably know exactly what I'm after.
Can you help ?

Thanks,
Jeff.

sfieszaq

Funny question...

What could be light speed in copper?! ;D

15" TPU ~1.2m (circumference)
Vacuum (299792458 m/s) f=249 827 048 Hz
Air (290798684 m/s [1.225 kg/m3]) f= 243 332 236 Hz
Glass (197863022 m/s[2457 kg/m3]) f= 164 885 851 Hz
Copper ( ???????? m/s[8900 kg/m3]) f= ???? Hz

If we build 10 times "longer" TPU and put sequence in 4 CC's I am very interested what can happen ;D
Possible to build and test  :D