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Overunity Machines Forum



TPU - General Discussion

Started by z_p_e, October 01, 2007, 11:32:43 PM

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wattsup

@Jacob

Good analysis. But I think the wire analogy means what would happen if you had both a magnet move over a wire, plus a frequency vibrating the wire in a magnet.

And don't forget. Your design has to work with two pieces cut out. One at 9 and one at 12 o'clock. Ouch again.

Grumpy

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jacob

Quote from: innovation_station on November 08, 2007, 12:45:09 PM
what good will this tech do any one if that can not grasp how and why??

research was done years ago  as were the pattends  lol  we are the ones that are behind  ;)

far more than the tpu here folks  8)

Not sure what you mean.


Quote from: wattsup on November 08, 2007, 12:48:10 PM
@Jacob

Good analysis. But I think the wire analogy means what would happen if you had both a magnet move over a wire, plus a frequency vibrating the wire in a magnet.

And don't forget. Your design has to work with two pieces cut out. One at 9 and one at 12 o'clock. Ouch again.

Wattsup, I don't know how or where you came up with these concepts, but they are not supported by anything I have heard or seen so far. Ouch!


Quote from: Grumpy on November 08, 2007, 12:55:12 PM
Attached is a PDF of Jacob's explanation, in case he has a change of heart after everyone waste their time bashing his explanation rather than taking a crack at it.

:D

Quote from: Grumpy on November 08, 2007, 12:55:12 PM
Jacob, have you looped it back yet?  If so, how did you protect from runaway?

If the frequencies are tightly controlled, runaway won't happen. Which doesn't mean that proper security measures don't need to be implemented. These were described by SM:

Quote from: SM
Through the different control wire and coil wire arrangements you can keep complete control of the unit most of the time.
However, you must have an emergency KILL switch. A way of cutting off all the control frequencies simultaneity. This kill switch must be, manual and also connected through a heat sensor buried within the collector coil. it should automatically stop the function of the unit before it self destructs on it's own.

This is important for obvious reasons.

Also the kill switch should also be connected to cut off whenever it measures over voltage.

Grumpy

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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jacob

Quote from: Grumpy on November 08, 2007, 02:11:28 PM
Wait a minute...

This is too simple and I am already confused  :-\

You describe two sets of control coils.  One inside initiating the kicks, and another set creating the RMF.

Now, looking at the RMF set, driven with freqs in the 35kHz range (7.xx apart), how are these coils creating an RMF?

I posted that a long time ago, but for your benefit, here it is again.

To create the RMF in a device such as the open unit, use a circuit similar to this one: