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SMOT! - (previously about the OC MPMM)

Started by rotorhead, October 03, 2007, 11:01:31 PM

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Omnibus

Quote from: Koen1 on March 11, 2008, 11:58:49 AM
Omnibus, you may not like to hear it, but you're talking nonsense yourself.

first of all, don't tell people to stop confusing things in the same sentence where you do some confusing
of your own.
Shruggedatlas's drawing is NOT of a SMOT, it is of the example Shrugged gave using a ramp, a ball,
and a rubber band. Point A is exactly point A in that pic.
Your refusal to accept Shruggeds drawing as a comparable situation does not at all change that
example, and it also does not change it into a SMOT depiction if you switch A and B in Shrugged's pic.

Second of all, your aggressive reactions seem to imply a need to compensate, and in general this
tendency is recognised in either men who are very short of stature, or men who are short in the pelvic department,
but certainly not in people who know they are right and can prove it.
Since you never come up with any proof (and I mean EMPIRICAL proof, not your fantasies), you leave
very few options open here. Do you not see you are undermining yourself by reacting in this way?

Third, in the SMOT, all the ball does is roll up the ramp. If you pull it back a bit from the start of the ramp,
a sort of "magnetic spring effect" will take place, where the ball will gain some extra speed/momentum
while it is attracted toward the ramp, and that added speed may allow it to "shoot" off the ramp when
it has reaced the end of the ramp.
When you don't pull the ball back, it does not "shoot" off, it gets stuck at the end of the ramp, where
the magnetic field is a lot stronger than anywhere else.
I have tested this myself as have many others. The extra energy added by the "magnetic spring effect"
is in fact input when you pull the ball back, and it is this very energy that is needed for the ball to break free.
For the ball to return to its starting point, it first needs to break free of the magnetic attraction at the very
point where that attraction is strongest, and then it would need to roll back around to the starting point.
Once the ball is no longer attracted, yet still at nearly the same height, then it will roll back around, or at
least it can be made to do so. That's not the difficult part.
The problem is getting it unstuck. It doesn't do so by itself.

And at this point I expect you to start swearing and calling me all kinds of nasty things, as you usually do.
But that is in no way a valid reply.

You are the one claiming you can get the SMOT to loop,
why don't you PROVE IT?
Very simple: film that closed-loop SMOT of yours.
You have one, right? If not, then what are you getting so hyped up about?
And if you do, then simply post a video of your looping SMOT, and stop fighting people over it.

If you are going to react with hostility and slander again, without any proof,
then we will all be forced to conclude you are just a windbag making lots of noise
but when push comes to shove you're just full of shit.



There are more than one stupid persons here. You're one of them. Stop with this stupidity.

konduct

Quote from: Omnibus on March 11, 2008, 12:06:22 PM
Quote from: Koen1 on March 11, 2008, 11:58:49 AM
Omnibus, you may not like to hear it, but you're talking nonsense yourself.

first of all, don't tell people to stop confusing things in the same sentence where you do some confusing
of your own.
Shruggedatlas's drawing is NOT of a SMOT, it is of the example Shrugged gave using a ramp, a ball,
and a rubber band. Point A is exactly point A in that pic.
Your refusal to accept Shruggeds drawing as a comparable situation does not at all change that
example, and it also does not change it into a SMOT depiction if you switch A and B in Shrugged's pic.

Second of all, your aggressive reactions seem to imply a need to compensate, and in general this
tendency is recognised in either men who are very short of stature, or men who are short in the pelvic department,
but certainly not in people who know they are right and can prove it.
Since you never come up with any proof (and I mean EMPIRICAL proof, not your fantasies), you leave
very few options open here. Do you not see you are undermining yourself by reacting in this way?

Third, in the SMOT, all the ball does is roll up the ramp. If you pull it back a bit from the start of the ramp,
a sort of "magnetic spring effect" will take place, where the ball will gain some extra speed/momentum
while it is attracted toward the ramp, and that added speed may allow it to "shoot" off the ramp when
it has reaced the end of the ramp.
When you don't pull the ball back, it does not "shoot" off, it gets stuck at the end of the ramp, where
the magnetic field is a lot stronger than anywhere else.
I have tested this myself as have many others. The extra energy added by the "magnetic spring effect"
is in fact input when you pull the ball back, and it is this very energy that is needed for the ball to break free.
For the ball to return to its starting point, it first needs to break free of the magnetic attraction at the very
point where that attraction is strongest, and then it would need to roll back around to the starting point.
Once the ball is no longer attracted, yet still at nearly the same height, then it will roll back around, or at
least it can be made to do so. That's not the difficult part.
The problem is getting it unstuck. It doesn't do so by itself.

And at this point I expect you to start swearing and calling me all kinds of nasty things, as you usually do.
But that is in no way a valid reply.

You are the one claiming you can get the SMOT to loop,
why don't you PROVE IT?
Very simple: film that closed-loop SMOT of yours.
You have one, right? If not, then what are you getting so hyped up about?
And if you do, then simply post a video of your looping SMOT, and stop fighting people over it.

If you are going to react with hostility and slander again, without any proof,
then we will all be forced to conclude you are just a windbag making lots of noise
but when push comes to shove you're just full of shit.



There are more than one stupid persons here. You're one of them. Stop with this stupidity.

"There are more than one stupid persons..."?

Looks like you're one of them. Omnibus...for the love of all things sane...shut your mouth you delusional prick. I really think you are one of the MIB guys...all you do is detract from the topics and insult people while making yourself into the dumbass of the year nominee. Nobody cares about you so jump off a bridge you worthless bastard. Go to hell. Go direct traffic in the middle of a highway. Go see what gunsmoke tastes like. Just take the ol razor blade sliding board into a salty ocean. Go find a girlfriend. Go get a life. Go get a car. Go get your backhair waxed. Go get a job. Quit smoking crack. Do something you loser.

Omnibus

Quote from: konduct on March 11, 2008, 04:11:41 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on March 11, 2008, 12:06:22 PM
Quote from: Koen1 on March 11, 2008, 11:58:49 AM
Omnibus, you may not like to hear it, but you're talking nonsense yourself.

first of all, don't tell people to stop confusing things in the same sentence where you do some confusing
of your own.
Shruggedatlas's drawing is NOT of a SMOT, it is of the example Shrugged gave using a ramp, a ball,
and a rubber band. Point A is exactly point A in that pic.
Your refusal to accept Shruggeds drawing as a comparable situation does not at all change that
example, and it also does not change it into a SMOT depiction if you switch A and B in Shrugged's pic.

Second of all, your aggressive reactions seem to imply a need to compensate, and in general this
tendency is recognised in either men who are very short of stature, or men who are short in the pelvic department,
but certainly not in people who know they are right and can prove it.
Since you never come up with any proof (and I mean EMPIRICAL proof, not your fantasies), you leave
very few options open here. Do you not see you are undermining yourself by reacting in this way?

Third, in the SMOT, all the ball does is roll up the ramp. If you pull it back a bit from the start of the ramp,
a sort of "magnetic spring effect" will take place, where the ball will gain some extra speed/momentum
while it is attracted toward the ramp, and that added speed may allow it to "shoot" off the ramp when
it has reaced the end of the ramp.
When you don't pull the ball back, it does not "shoot" off, it gets stuck at the end of the ramp, where
the magnetic field is a lot stronger than anywhere else.
I have tested this myself as have many others. The extra energy added by the "magnetic spring effect"
is in fact input when you pull the ball back, and it is this very energy that is needed for the ball to break free.
For the ball to return to its starting point, it first needs to break free of the magnetic attraction at the very
point where that attraction is strongest, and then it would need to roll back around to the starting point.
Once the ball is no longer attracted, yet still at nearly the same height, then it will roll back around, or at
least it can be made to do so. That's not the difficult part.
The problem is getting it unstuck. It doesn't do so by itself.

And at this point I expect you to start swearing and calling me all kinds of nasty things, as you usually do.
But that is in no way a valid reply.

You are the one claiming you can get the SMOT to loop,
why don't you PROVE IT?
Very simple: film that closed-loop SMOT of yours.
You have one, right? If not, then what are you getting so hyped up about?
And if you do, then simply post a video of your looping SMOT, and stop fighting people over it.

If you are going to react with hostility and slander again, without any proof,
then we will all be forced to conclude you are just a windbag making lots of noise
but when push comes to shove you're just full of shit.



There are more than one stupid persons here. You're one of them. Stop with this stupidity.

"There are more than one stupid persons..."?

Looks like you're one of them. Omnibus...for the love of all things sane...shut your mouth you delusional prick. I really think you are one of the MIB guys...all you do is detract from the topics and insult people while making yourself into the dumbass of the year nominee. Nobody cares about you so jump off a bridge you worthless bastard. Go to hell. Go direct traffic in the middle of a highway. Go see what gunsmoke tastes like. Just take the ol razor blade sliding board into a salty ocean. Go find a girlfriend. Go get a life. Go get a car. Go get your backhair waxed. Go get a job. Quit smoking crack. Do something you loser.

No, you're one of the stupid people. In addition, you're a potty mouthed swine. Shut up.

acp

Yes, thats right, ShruggedAtlas' example is analogous to the smot. In both cases the ball returns to A and has to be supplied with external energy to rereach point B.

Yes, well, I'm glad we all agree on that.

Omnibus

Quote from: acp on March 11, 2008, 04:49:24 PM
Yes, thats right, ShruggedAtlas' example is analogous to the smot. In both cases the ball returns to A and has to be supplied with external energy to rereach point B.

Yes, well, I'm glad we all agree on that.

Not all agree on that. Only stupid people would agree on such a stupid thing.