Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[nickle989]

@Loki ... Thanks for the help .. looked at the circuit this morning ... MAN do I feel like an idiot ... had the cap in the wrong place changed it and it fired up ... I really have no idea what the hell I was thinking about ... really.  I have been taking apart and into electronic since for about 20 plus years now .. no offense taken .. and have built and designed a number of circuits (of course all the thinking was inside the box) ... you know when you are looking for something so hard you miss it because it is right infront of you ...

Thank you for the help.

[DrStiffler]

@All
Well we worked around the clock and all but (3) people have been notified that their SEC Boards are on the way. If you watch this forum and have not received an email that your board was shipped, then you are one of the three. It seems that plane from Hong Kong with our 3k LEDs hasn't landed yet, so the boards are done sans the LEDs. So Canada and Spain if you did not get a mail, it will be soon.

To make up for the delay even thought I was not going to ship until 5/15/08, I will try to get them to you faster.

[DrStiffler]

@the Dr. or if somone remembers ... which page had the test points on the circuit showing.

@the Dr. if I don't have a 400pf cap in place but a 390pf could this cause the SEC to fail ?

I am not using the coil cores to make the coil but I have found a similar core to wind on and have the one coil ranging from 2.3uH to 9.8uH and the other one ranging from 7.3uH to 23uH for tuning. For power I am using a 18volt battery from a cordless drill. On a large breadboard with an alluminium backing plate.

Power at the collector is 19.33 volts at the emittor is 11.46 volts just before the 390pf cap. 

I know I am missing something just not sure on what it is.

Thanks for the help if you can.

@nickle989
Well I want to impart a bit of my knowledge on you that may or may not be accepted by the current EE's. It has now been over 19 years since my last lecture to budding EE's at a university so I have no idea what is currently being taught, yet here goes.

We all know that a resonant circuit has Xc, Xl, R and Z. Now if you say a particular circuit resonants is G, what is the problem if I use a big L and a small C, it comes out to the same fr.

That is not the case. Even in common communications environment. Circuits that have the same fr but are built from different L & C are not the same. Why? Because in SEC for example the ratio of Xc and Xl is crucial to the operation.

Your question of can I use 390pF or 470pF or whatever and offset it with L, NO!

I do indeed use different values of the base capacity, but I never drop below 400pF, why? that will be answered later. But you can go to 470pF if you reduce the base Xl, and I do not mean by moving the slug outside of the coil to reduce L. I mean a minimum of #26 wire on a form as I have specified.

Should you think I am nuts here, good luck as it just will not work otherwise.

So you have an Exciter working? What one into a neon or are you running a chain?

So what are you going to do with it, are you going to build a calorimeter?

Keep up the good work.....

@Loki
Thanks for the help on this. It seems that is what is needed is input from those that have already felt the pain.

[nickle989]

@the Dr. ... thank you for your insight.  As far as the current EE .. I have met very few that can't get their heads out of the Book Laws and the theories that they seem to accept as fact based around what the Laws will allow them to do.  Unfortunatly the ones that think outside of the box they seem to loose funding very quickly or not get any at all, this I think is a great loss.  I am by no means the greatest mind but do like to think that what I have does me alright along with some commen sense.  I am not one that believes in overunity but do believe that one can manipulate energy and its very dimensions by many means and ways.  I am not easily convinced and seeing is believing .. nice work.

@All

On to the my humble attept to replicate the SEC ... I am not sure if it is running in SEC mode .. I do know that the coil has various spots where the led and neon get brighter.  Have not had time to take any readings yet.

L1 - 10uH - should be only one but the LCR meter shows one only to be 5uH - gets me to 10uH
L2 - 20uH - variable coil (ripped from some phone), looks like the windings are 34awg or smaller

LB - 2.3uH - 9.8uH on top windings of 28awg / 7.3uH - 23uH on the bottom windings which go the just past the length of the ferrite slug and then to the middle wound to the same direction

Neon - not sure had to get one out of an indicator light 110v ... cut the resistor off.- will find out though
Led - just from a bag of leds that I have .. 2.8volts to run and a few ma's - will find out specs

The Led plug is plugged into the L2 - the Neon one leg is touching the one leg of the Led plug and not connected to directly to the L2 but through the led .. the Neon is also set up like the Led plug .. out of frustration I did it this way to try out as I was not getting it to light up the way it is in the current SEC circuit, I am sure this is no supprise to Dr. Stiffler but it was for me.

I do plan on building a calorimeter now and hope that the local electronics place will finally have a 400 - 470pf cap.  I will take the readings and post .. good or bad they are results ( I am sure that the Dr. has lots but what the hec, I would not mind a few in the log book and maybe they might be of use)

I would load a larger image not sure on how to here .. 50KB limit on the size .. can't figure out on how to imbed the image in here.

[nickle989]

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