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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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k4zep

Quote from: Spokane1 on November 24, 2007, 01:15:47 PM
Dear Non-funded Researchers,

If you are considering developing improved variations to the blocking oscillator portion of the Thomas Driver, then as a suggestion ?don?t re-invent the wheel? see what the experts were doing 60 years ago. I believe that most modern electronic theory courses don?t cover this once important circuit. There are at least a hundred or more potential improvements that can still be made to the Dr. Stiffler technology and many of them are waiting to be rediscovered in the old texts of analog electronics.

Mr. Hartmann and others have already proposed a number of improvements, all of which have merit and need to be explored in detail. The latest is the addition of a coil between the Thomas Driver and the AV plug. Believe it or not this variation is called a delay-line blocking oscillator and is discussed in detail in the book "Waveforms" (see below). I think we have only touched the surface of what this modification can provide.

Meanwhile, here is a partial list of some excellent technical books that you might have a good chance of finding at your local college library. Or, if you have the $$ you can buy them off on the Internet. There are a lot of other good reports on blocking oscillators out there, but many are hidden in the journals of professional organizations (i.e. IEEE Proceedings).

1) ?Waveforms?, edited by Britton Chance, Vernon Hughes, Edward F. MacNichol, David Sayre and Frederic C. Williams 1949 McGraw Hill Book Co.  Reprinted by Dover in 1965 Library of Congress Number 65-22733

2) ?Pulse Electronics? Ralph Litttauer 1965 McGraw-Hill Inc. Library of Congress Number 64-22195

3) ?Pulse and Digital Circuits? Jacob Millman and Herbert Taub 1956 McGraw-Hill Book Company, Inc. Library of Congress Number 55-11930

4) ?Pulse, Digital, and Switching Waveforms? Jacob Millman and Herbert Taub 1965 McGraw-Hill Book Company, Inc. Library of Congress Number 64-66293

5) ?Basic Pulse Circuits? Richard Blitzer (RCA Institutes) 1964 McGraw-Hill Book Company, Inc. Library of Congress Number 63-15107


Submitted for your consideration,

Spokane1

Hi Spokane1 and all,

The "blocking Osc" is older than I am and I'm considered ancient by my kids..It is ironic,I believe that John Bedini said many years ago that the blocking Osc. and its variants were the only circuit that he found to collect/release the energy that his designs use. Again, the common thread, ..It would appear that there is SO much information that has been discovered and lost over time that it is no longer funny........We have so much to rediscover, reapply, reconsider and do all over again!  All I can say is "Ain't we got fun!?" 

The above is so much EXCELLENT reference material!  Wow............Keep up the good work everyone!

Ben K4ZEP
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DrStiffler

Quote from: plengo on November 24, 2007, 01:29:03 PM
Quote from: RStiffler on November 24, 2007, 12:27:25 PM
You know the difference when you can measure a unity > 1.
It is RF, but the way it reacts to the environment is very different. Closed RF systems with an antenna will radiate (provided the correct impedances are present) or will heat a dummy load. With the AV plug you see an environmental coupling if you use an antenna, that is why (depending on where you connect it) you will see either an increase in brightness and input current or a decrease in brightness.
Thank you Dr. Stiffler. Now it makes perfect sence to me. So in other words (if I understood you right) with conventional models the antenna approach (shown on the previous pics and posts of mine) the device would be emitting energy out from the source, but with SEC (properly tunned) will draw energy (may be from the antenna in my example or the coil) into the device, the opposite of the conventional model which would be a problem because of errouneous EM models.

And you right, depending where I connect my "antenna" in the circuit it will bright the LEDs or dim them. I have experienced both and that's exactly where I started doubting the conventional model.

If you right about the SEC then would be correct to predict that any "antenna" attached to this device would not get hot? Should the LEDs run cold? and possible our future load? And If I understood you right, SEC being "capacitive" the load we will endup putting onto this system will only work if we make the load "less capacitive" and SEC device (or vice-versa)?

Another question: do you see this "cold electricity" (may be radiant?) with properties similiar to fluid or gaseous? If yes, would that be an explanation for the "microphonics" effect we seen in one of the other fellas here ? My opinion is that it is gaseous somehow and when ones hands approach the device it affects its radiant flow and since our coil is working somehow as an "antenna" but in reverse mode (withdrawing energy from the environment) it is also affecting the coils inside the radio with miscroscopic perfection thus modulation.

So many questions so little time. I really appreciate your work Dr. Stiffler.

Fausto.
Most of your questions will have to wait until I finish my paper, indeed what you all are doing is providing me with additional information that either fits or does not into my main idea of SEC. I do not have at this time have and may never all the answers, but I (we) are obtaining more by the day.

I do not want to dampen you endeavor, but I am not surprised by the micro-phonics you have experienced. If you adjust a tank circuit of high Q to the same frequency that a radio is tuned they lock or as I explain it maintain a virtual space. When you tap one it changes the resonant frequency or modulates the coupling between the tuned circuits, thus the micro-phonics. You should be able to do the same thing with two radios, one turned On and the other turned Off. Place them fairly close and tune the radio that is Off to the frequency of the one that is On. You should be able to experience a similar effect.

The LEDS appear to be 'Thermal Neutral', they cool enough to offset the heat they would normally produce.
All things are possible but some are impractical.

retrod

Quote from RStiffler
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Most of your questions will have to wait until I finish my paper, indeed what you all are doing is providing me with additional information that either fits or does not into my main idea of SEC. I do not have at this time have and may never all the answers, but I (we) are obtaining more by the day.

I do not want to dampen you endeavor, but I am not surprised by the micro-phonics you have experienced. If you adjust a tank circuit of high Q to the same frequency that a radio is tuned they lock or as I explain it maintain a virtual space. When you tap one it changes the resonant frequency or modulates the coupling between the tuned circuits, thus the micro-phonics. You should be able to do the same thing with two radios, one turned On and the other turned Off. Place them fairly close and tune the radio that is Off to the frequency of the one that is On. You should be able to experience a similar effect.

The LEDS appear to be 'Thermal Neutral', they cool enough to offset the heat they would normally produce.
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Dr Stiffler is correct, the micro-phonics can be simulated using two radios close together, I just tried it. What I noticed is that within the field of the SEC the effect is much more pronounced. Today I did a test and was able to use the micro-phonic radio as a contact microphone and record to my computer. A second radio tuned to a local station is turned up loud to vibrate the micro-phonic radio. The YouTube video has the soundtrack from the micro-phonic radio. Something fades in at the end, might be another station or ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=051gD0NZ0P4

Dave

Pirate88179

@ Retrod:

Actually, I think it was the song "Angel in the morning" that was causing this effect. (Ha, ha.)  Just kidding.  Nice work in leading us into a fascintating area.  Which radio was on in the video?

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

retrod

Quote from: Pirate88179 on November 24, 2007, 09:38:10 PM
@ Retrod:

Actually, I think it was the song "Angel in the morning" that was causing this effect. (Ha, ha.)  Just kidding.  Nice work in leading us into a fascintating area.  Which radio was on in the video?

Bill

Both radios are on. The SEC is 'tuned' to the blue one. This blue radio is being recorded by my computer so the speaker is cut out. The video is modified so you are only hearing the blue radio, not the black one. The blue radio is so micro-phonic in the SEC field all I had to do was turn up the black radio behind it and get a good sound pickup. I was running tests tonite with a Tri-Field EM meter. In the meters 'radio' position I get a strong signal off the LED bank. It was pegged on the mw/CM2 scale but I had the meter maybe six inches from the LEDs, that was the 'hot' spot.

I also listened to the light output by using a 931-a photomultiplier tube and also a phototransistor. The phototransistor is mounted in a digital voice recorder in place of a normal microphone. This recorder is very sensitive to any modulations or vibrations of light, at least in the audio frequency range. On playback I got several speech fragments that do not sound like a radio broadcast. I'll post one and then drop the subject as it does not relate directly to OU, just something to think about.
This is what I hear.
"We want/run a tester that's different....Cleveland had a smart kid"

Dave