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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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scraven

sorry, reactive power. Now we are getting enraged and confused. Yes, the problem enrages and confuses me.... but it shouldn't because reactive power is free.. but I guess that's what makes me enraged and confused... Sorry... I'm off to sob all over the EE books my university charges me so much for >:(

fritz

Quote from: scraven on November 19, 2008, 09:47:12 AM
sorry, reactive power. Now we are getting enraged and confused. Yes, the problem enrages and confuses me.... but it shouldn't because reactive power is free.. but I guess that's what makes me enraged and confused... Sorry... I'm off to sob all over the EE books my university charges me so much for >:(

Ok, lets lay it down precisly:

Reactive power [VAr] in theory is "for free". In practice there is always current and real world
resistance involved - so reactive power never comes "alone". In real world you use power
plants and facilities to maintain/compensate reactive power in the grid to keep losses at minimum.
So the statement "for free" depends on the reference frame.

For example:
Imagine a room sized capacitor (we ignore now the wavelength and EM) connected to mains.
This cap would draw a dominant reactive power (we assume lossless cap here).
If I enter the room - and place a conductive/resistive table in the middle - we have a lossy cap,
the table "connects" places of different field strength/potential, there is current in the table construction, losses.
The capacity of the room-cap will be reduced, reactive power will decrease, real power consumption will increase.

What I meant in the sense of using the terminus "reactive power" is to change a local impedance
scenario with dominating reactive power in a way which gives the possibility to harvest real power.

Just if you have e/m/em fields in ideal configurations, just driven by reactive power - you can harvest
real power by introducing losses in that field.

This losses contribute to the real power component of the entire system.

In real world - those losses happen almost everwhere - by "matching" the local impedance you just make
your matching part the dominant "consumer".

Hope this helps with the confusion.

scraven

Well lets relate this to a broadband oscillator. No load, and you have reactive power (with a certain amount of real power consumed...real life and all). Add an antenna and power starts getting pumped out and you should see this as a current draw at the source. Now add an AV plug to the antenna and suddenly the oscillator goes back to reactive power mode yet somehow the cap in the AV plug gets charged up, WITHOUT A CURRENT DRAW AT THE SOURCE.
This needs to be tested with a battery as the source in a REMOTE location. Then bring on the outlandish explanations.

DrStiffler

Quote from: scraven on November 19, 2008, 10:56:52 AM
Well lets relate this to a broadband oscillator. No load, and you have reactive power (with a certain amount of real power consumed...real life and all). Add an antenna and power starts getting pumped out and you should see this as a current draw at the source. Now add an AV plug to the antenna and suddenly the oscillator goes back to reactive power mode yet somehow the cap in the AV plug gets charged up, WITHOUT A CURRENT DRAW AT THE SOURCE.
This needs to be tested with a battery as the source in a REMOTE location. Then bring on the outlandish explanations.
@scraven

**This needs to be tested with a battery as the source in a REMOTE location. Then bring on the outlandish explanations.**

Remote location testing has been carried out by a number of people, in fact another poster to this thread just completed such a test with a SEC Exciter (15-3) design, although not charging caps as such the output was a capacitor for all practical purposes. This person has now removed from his mind the ridicules comments by others that my exciters are operating off of localized RF or power lines.

The problem with comments similar to what 'fritz' has made is that in order to satisfy his statement, remote testing would not be sufficient, you would have to leave earth and maintain free space around the circuit. What would be the next rebuttal is that energy was being supplied by (what the lattice or the aether), humm..........

What happened to the fact that I have indeed run without effect exciters in Faraday Cages, but LOL none of the detractors could agree on if the cage was required to be grounded or not grounded. In fact I left one posting group that has a moderator that stated; "Stiffler is incompetent to make valid RF measurements, because I am", gee now if that isn't an admission none is.

Ignore what you must and work it out yourself in mind and circuit. A SEC Exciter is such a simple circuit to build there is no reason or cause for all the mind games that have and will continue to go on and on and on. It's not my saying but it is appropriate; "We believe what we already know". Very, very correct and hard to change.

Dr.S.
All things are possible but some are impractical.

scraven

LOL - BLAST SEC INTO OUTER SPACE!!!! Bottom line is we all want to know where this power is coming from and the longer it takes to figure it out, the more frustrated and insecure us kids who where bought up suckling on the teat of Newton, become.