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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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armagdn03

I am very confused now.

I have been reading up on alot of NMR and MRI just to make sure I have the science correct, and it seems that maximum spin happens after two variables are colide if you will. One is a minimum magnetic saturation (which is kinda like bias, as if you were to use a transistor you have to have a bias) and the other is frequency. From what I understand the bandwidth of activity in the elements is not very high at all, which is good in the medical field since it allows us to selectively see things.

here is a graph of an experiment where we would keep the magnetic field constant and vary the frequency


http://www.cis.rit.edu/htbooks/nmr/chap-3/images/cw-swb.gif
and here is one where we would vary the magnetic field


http://www.cis.rit.edu/htbooks/nmr/chap-3/c7-2.htm
the last animation does not work so I added the links in

as you can see we need to reach a certain magnetic field strength to see results.

But if  we have a narrow window of magnetic field strength and frequency,

how are we able to see results at super low power? I wouldnt think this is enough to bias the element
How come our output is not in some way connected to the graph of the spin (up to saturation) of barium since that is what is suposedly the key?

something is not adding up here. Definitly NOT CRYING FOUL, just saying I dont think we are even close to understanding the role of barium yet if any role at all.
I wish I could turn my brain off sometimes, then I could get some sleep.

fritz

Quote from: edork on October 23, 2007, 03:45:49 PM
Hi fritz!

Hey nice but where you built Stifler circuit? So what you mix good fruit with bad?

Well, here is a little bit more of a similar circuit,
I?m not able to replicate it because I don?t have the right
cores nor the same breadboard.

armagdn03

an interesting thought with no science to back it up.....


what if very little energy is needed to resonate atoms in a capacitive manor rather than a magnetic one? what implications would this have?
I wish I could turn my brain off sometimes, then I could get some sleep.

gyulasun

Quote from: fritz on October 23, 2007, 05:09:02 PM

The self resonant frequency of an AM ferrite antenna is around 10MHz.

Hi Fritz,  have you measured that to be around 10MHz or you judged?  If you only judged, I would say you are probably correct if you remove the ferrite rod from the coil and  refer to the self-resonant frequency of the now air core coil, right?.   

Because the high permeability of the ferrite core would still dominate the inductance of the coil at 10MHz (even though the permeability certainly gets reduced with increasing frequency) so the presence of the core would not let such a high self resonant frequency.  Do you agree?
My understanding is an AM ferrite antenna coil has approximatly  600-700uH of self inductance around 0.5-1MHz. Suppose it still has about 70uH inductance left at 10MHz, right?  This 70uH needs  about 1.5pF (distributed and parasitic capacitance) to resonate at 10MHz, right?  And the AM coil on the ferrite rod surely has higher than 1.5pF distributed cap due to the many turns of wire, this surely has to lower the self resonance frequency of the ferrite antenna well below 10MHz.

Kind regards
Gyula

Freenrg4me

@dork - Fritz is just doing what he can to try to figure this out and produce an explanation. That is a good thing, no? He has good intent and experience. At least he is doing experiments and posting results. I will defend my friend Fritz or Ron as long as they are trying to do science. (right or wrong) If they make a mistake, we will be kind to them for trying to explain something interesting or find something new. Neither of them have ill intent.

@ Fritz - Hey in one of the pictures with the crowbar (When I expand it to full size) where you are holding the LEDS, I noticed that the primary is not connected at either end but the signal is going through the secondary to the LEDS in your fingers. How is that a replication of the Stiffler circuit since Stiffler has an open end on one coil? Are you just trying to show that you can hold an LED and get it to light by touching the right power source and your body being a good impedance match? You mentioned the importance of impedance matching - Just curious.

Also, that ebay site sells variable capacitors  - do you think that would be helpful in tuning? Stiffler used a silver dipped mica cap. Do caps have reactance speeds?

The reason I ask is in the Meyer circuit, US patent 4798661, Meyer describes what looks like an air plate capacitor submerged in distilled water. Now why would someone go though the hassle of creating that if a simple off the shelf capacitor will work? Could someone teach me about charge/discharge speed of a capacitor?

Sure electricity goes through water quite fast but the charge or bond angle change is about 1mm per second. I am trying to take what I learn from this in regards to distributive capacitance on a transmission line and apply it to Meyer circuit since I keep seeing and hearing similar terms.

Glad to see this forum go back to the CE circuit too.