Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[DrStiffler]

his knowledge of the device is so superficial that he has missed every important concept there....The circuit is not even remotely similar. Visually, both flash.....thats where the similarity ends.

Ben [/b][/b]

Thanks for the reply.

@canam101

I don't feel this thread wants to focus on NEGATIVE or SPECULATIVE assessments, unless it is by one of those in the threat that are dedicated and applying effort towards finding the answer for themselves. In this thread we have people spending time that could be spent with family, sports etc., looking into these circuits for answers. The evidence shown here has already out weighted any from your reference.

I would suggest you move on if that is your direction of comment and apparent insult to all working here. I think I speak for all, we want result, not bunk.

[canam101]

I would suggest you move on if that is your direction of comment and apparent insult to all working here. I think I speak for all, we want result, not bunk.

Sure, no problem. People who are able to work on replicating this probably prefer to spend their time doing that rather than answering questions from the peanut gallery; and if it isn't for real, they will eventually see that and let us know.

[DrStiffler]

@Stefan

>>Please Ron,
can you check, if also other cores work for you
and how your circuit behaves, when you remove the core
from the coils ?

I know I have answered this a hundred times, but can't find where. One last time.

I tried various core material I have at the lab, most unknown content, some for AF, RF and LF chokes. I tried xformer cores and pot cores. I did not get any worthwhile results from these attempts. Nothing I would not agree was standard EE results.

I still remain amazed that others seem to. Hey maybe I did something wrong. But your on you won in this area, I have noting to offer other than I could not get results.

You IC approach to a driver. I think I mentioned this to 'amigo', this is not a current driven anomaly, the input impedance is so high that it just is not the correct approach. Voltage driven and impedance matching in the driver is the most important part of the replication. You can see this is true in the other replication postings.

I am happy to hear that you have at least seen the HV occur. Your close, don't dismay.

[plengo]

@Adriano,

Fantastic! You are reproduced the Avramenko experiment!

Did I? well, I am glad of that!

It would now be interesting to close the circuit to mass with the generator of signals, to see if this has effect to heat the thin wire. If you have a termocouple or thermometer you can measure the heating of the thread in the two cases.

I dont' think I will be able to measure any heat from this wire in my lab. It is so small, if any, that I would need a more controled envrionment for that.

I think that your experiment is fundamental better to understand the phenomenon. To what frequency are you using the generator of signals? And possible measure the current which comes along the wire with the oscilloscopio which I have seen in the photography? Can you send an image to be able to understand the current he passes to you? And also the tension.

I agree. I am very puzzled by being able to light those leds with so little power. I measure again last night the current in/out and it is very interesting that the in current is less than .1 milliamp and the out can be as high as 20milliamp. Voltage has been very difficult to measure, it affects everything.  I will take some shots of the oscilloscope from many different places in the circuit.

Can you use/build a simple signal generator, powered by a battery and therefore do again the tests verifying the absorption of the oscillator (always with the oscilloscope) and the group of the LEDs?

I am working on that already. Soon I will be running this thing without the func-gen.

I Think is important to understand  if the system composed by:
oscillator-> wire -> rectifier -> LEDs
produce energy or only transport energy ?

If is only a transport media the envelopment L1-L2-L3 used by Stiffer becomes fundamental.

At this point tries to insert only L1, do a test for his dimensioning and verifies what happens.
oscillator-> wire -> L1 -> rectifier -> LEDs
produce energy or only transport energy ?

I also tested this circuit in parallel to another one very similliar where ALL the leds are in parallel, about 15 more, and they all light bright (so a total of 70 leds). It seams that If I decouple the signal from the func-gen from the circuits I can run many more circuits at the same time with no logical reason from where the power is coming from. (I know this sounds craizy, but hey, Dr. Stiffler started all).
One more note: I tried last night also using a long, very long cable about 50 feet, to feed the system. It is a lamp wire with two lines, I connected the func-gen (one lead only) to one wire and on the other end I connected the OTHER wire to the circuit and it all works still, even though they are no longer the same wire (I will show later in a diagram). Interesting stuff. Now here is the trick, when the signal comes into the circuit from the "not same wire" I have no current at all in the ground but when they are the "same wire" there is current on the ground. Figures!

@hartiberlin 

do you need to match the driver frequency to the length of the wire ?
What if you change the length ?
Do you then also have to adjust the
frequency ?
So is it a standing wave ?

No. It is the same frequency in this case. The wire was about 8 feet long. I dont khow if it is a standing wave.

Fausto.

[hartiberlin]

Hi Ron,
do I understand this right, that you said, that one needs the right special core material, otherwise it would not work ?

Then I guess, I still have not yet the right ferrite cores...
Maybe I really shoild order a few pieces from this Ebay seller....

To the question about the 74AC14 driver IC.
The output of this 5 inverters in parallel
should be so low in impedance to be able to drive quite a load. From your scopeshots I have seen, that you also drove your core with about 4 Volts, but I never get anywhere to 26 Volts in my circuit...
Hmm, I only have very low light on the neon bulb and also already just at the oscillator output without the coil-core...
I am going out now buying better parts. Stay tuned...