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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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DrStiffler

Quote from: canam101 on November 04, 2007, 08:04:06 AM
Quote from: k4zep on November 04, 2007, 01:12:19 AMIt would be nice if Dr. Stiffler could give us a one paragraph take on the basic theory of how it works.

I was wondering that myself. In fact, why doesn't Dr. Stiffler publish complete specs on how to construct the device, since he has said he wants to give it to the world.

It would save people from wasting time guessing about one thing and another trying to replicate the device.

Quote from: RStiffler on November 02, 2007, 01:10:15 PM

I would suggest you move on if that is your direction of comment and apparent insult to all working here. I think I speak for all, we want result, not bunk.

Sure, no problem. People who are able to work on replicating this probably prefer to spend their time doing that rather than answering questions from the peanut gallery; and if it isn't for real, they will eventually see that and let us know.

Gee, back to try again, and here we thought you were a man that stood behind his word. Guess not?
All things are possible but some are impractical.

canam101

Quote from: RStiffler on November 04, 2007, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: canam101 on November 04, 2007, 08:04:06 AM
Quote from: k4zep on November 04, 2007, 01:12:19 AMIt would be nice if Dr. Stiffler could give us a one paragraph take on the basic theory of how it works.

I was wondering that myself. In fact, why doesn't Dr. Stiffler publish complete specs on how to construct the device, since he has said he wants to give it to the world.

It would save people from wasting time guessing about one thing and another trying to replicate the device.

Quote from: RStiffler on November 02, 2007, 01:10:15 PM

I would suggest you move on if that is your direction of comment and apparent insult to all working here. I think I speak for all, we want result, not bunk.

Sure, no problem. People who are able to work on replicating this probably prefer to spend their time doing that rather than answering questions from the peanut gallery; and if it isn't for real, they will eventually see that and let us know.

Gee, back to try again, and here we thought you were a man that stood behind his word. Guess not?

It's a reasonable question and directed toward making it possible for people to replicate the circuit. If you really want to give this to the world, why don't you publish enough detail to enable people to replicate it?

I'm not asking the experimenters to waste time on my questions, I'm asking you, the only person who knows exactly what your circuit consists of, to give the experimenters the information they need to replicate it.

k4zep

Good Morning Dr. Snoswell,

The problem with being older is not what you remember but what you forget.  I forgot the simple test of increasing non inductive resistance in an input RF circuit till output drops to 50% as the simple test for impedance!!!!!

To make a long story short, but after a heck of a lot of test as it takes time to figure out how to work with this circuit, I find that the imput impedance of my circuit is very close to 250 ohms.  I will say that I have verified that 2 different ways.

Working @ RF frequencies, the waveform degradation due to working a fundamental and harmonics of wavelengths, the diode drops, the LED drops, all allows multitudes of factors to be taken into account in this circuit when trying to calculate Input Vs. Output.  It would appear that the circuit is still OU but at the mw range, measurements are tedious at best. This circuit can drive you crazy but unless the coil "pings" and puts out the goodies it is no banana!

I'm going to clean up my small workspace now and wait for the good coils to come in, should be in early next week.  I am MOST interested in the dual push pull circuit that works ONLY from a ground lead and self Osc!!!!!  The AV plug doesn't care a darn about what is feeding it, it just pumps away and provides its own loading in there.  IF the BF coil adds to the feedthrough, that is where the gravy is!!!!!

Ben



Quote from: MarkSnoswell on November 04, 2007, 01:50:33 AM
Quote from: k4zep on November 04, 2007, 01:12:19 AM
If you put any great amount of resistance into the input circuit to measure current reference to sig. generator ground, it drops out of OU.  Anything higher than a 1 ohm or so in the input side so you can measure voltage on both side referenced to ground will give you unbelievable high pulse current across the resistor and the device is under unity if measurements are to be believed

Raising the input resistance is one of the best ways to measure input characteristics in dificult to measure circuits... you keep raising the input resistance untill the output drops to 50% -- this tells you the input impedance of the circuit.

If the circuit was running in a potential only drive mode then you could raise the input impedance a long way -- to say M ohms or at least 100's K ohms, before the output dropped to 50%. The fact that you cant raise the input impedance much indicates that the circuit really requires a significant current to drive it...  This makes sense as it appears to be a seris LC resonant circuit which will give high voltage rise but needs a very low impedance to drive it. You could think of it as a low to high impedance matching network -- this is a great way to generate high voltages from low voltage (current mostly) drive without a transformer. Voltage gains are only limited by the impedance ratio and the Q. Google "impedance matching network" for more information.

mark.


Mr.Entropy

Quote from: canam101 on November 04, 2007, 08:04:06 AM
I was wondering that myself. In fact, why doesn't Dr. Stiffler publish complete specs on how to construct the device, since he has said he wants to give it to the world.

It would save people from wasting time guessing about one thing and another trying to replicate the device.

He has published complete specs.  What you have here is a bunch of people not doing exactly what he said.  You don't really expect him to write more detail that people don't follow, do you?

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

DrStiffler

Quote from: canam101 on November 04, 2007, 09:44:24 AM
Quote from: RStiffler on November 04, 2007, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: canam101 on November 04, 2007, 08:04:06 AM
Quote from: k4zep on November 04, 2007, 01:12:19 AMIt would be nice if Dr. Stiffler could give us a one paragraph take on the basic theory of how it works.

I was wondering that myself. In fact, why doesn't Dr. Stiffler publish complete specs on how to construct the device, since he has said he wants to give it to the world.

It would save people from wasting time guessing about one thing and another trying to replicate the device.

Quote from: RStiffler on November 02, 2007, 01:10:15 PM

I would suggest you move on if that is your direction of comment and apparent insult to all working here. I think I speak for all, we want result, not bunk.

And you ARE? The untimate authority fro all and keeper of the faith.

If you were able to read a schematic and a parts list, duplicate as stated (exact) then even you could build one.



















Sure, no problem. People who are able to work on replicating this probably prefer to spend their time doing that rather than answering questions from the peanut gallery; and if it isn't for real, they will eventually see that and let us know.

Gee, back to try again, and here we thought you were a man that stood behind his word. Guess not?

It's a reasonable question and directed toward making it possible for people to replicate the circuit. If you really want to give this to the world, why don't you publish enough detail to enable people to replicate it?

I'm not asking the experimenters to waste time on my questions, I'm asking you, the only person who knows exactly what your circuit consists of, to give the experimenters the information they need to replicate it.
All things are possible but some are impractical.