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Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

Started by hartiberlin, October 11, 2007, 05:28:41 PM

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abassign

@Xee
You are right, it is not correct to make the light measures by eye, the eye interprets the brightness in very particular way. However the tape of Stefan Hartmann ( http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=qRw_sCzhFnk ) is clear, if the power is that that he declares, it is a lot difficult to explain. At 2.'20" is possible to  observe the reflex of the bright flow on the oscilloscope, it covers the brightness of the room.
The bright flow is overcoming that of the room, and the LEDs are not near to the oscilloscope, and moreover their primary direction of flow is perpendicular at it, therefore the illumination produced by the LEDs is under the worse conditions.
Xee, job also in the field of the LEDs for environmental illumination, what I see sincerely surprise me.
However yours is a good observation! ;)

@Stefan
Is it possible to make the test with power LED for example 350-700 mA ?
In the tape, when you remove the oscilloscope probe , the LEDs are extinguished. For riactivate do you regulate the oscillator frequency ?
Can you display the oscillator circuit ?
Is it possible to make a test with more separation from the oscillator with the LEDs ?
In affirmative case, is it possible to use a thin wire ?

hartiberlin

Well, I played all day yeasterday and today with the Stiffler circuit and also tested his exact setup with 9 turns of copper wire wound around the Litz coil and driving it with a cap in series with the 2.2 uH coil... But always in my tests this gave darker output at the LEDs than just using a cap and the litz coil coke going into the avramenko plug...
Also the circuit is very dependant of wire lengths and stray capacitances and standing waves...
So it is pretty hard to tune and when you move a cable a bit, you need to retune to the new resonance frequency, cause the stray capavitance just had changed...
So all in all, I tried to find out, where the OU effects could be coming from. The cores are enhancing the resonance effects of the litz coils, which have a very high Q and the core coil-combination are ringing a lot, when you hit them with pulses, but so far I have not seen any Overunity yet in my measurements...
I would really like, if Ron would investigate further, why his LEDs light up with just touching his circuit or putting a ground cable to than he is trying to use solar panels...
We really need to find out, what the real effect is, why his ground cable put on his circuit could light up his LEDs...
I was not able to light up any single LED(yes I  tried it with a single LED at the AP) with a ground wire or touching it, although I used the same circuit as Ron...
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

I put today also a 22 uF cap across the 10 blue LEDs at the AP, so I had pure DC voltage there and I got at the best resonance frequency at around 1.5 MHz 25.5 Volts DC.
Then I put an analog milliampmeter in series with one of the 10 LEDs and it measured 0.6 mA at the best resonance point.The LEDs are not so bright as it seemed to be on my camera, as the CMOS chip of my camera saturates very fast at this LED blue light. Also these LEDs are these superbright types, that put out already quite some light at around 1 to 2 milliamps.
Okay, so output was then 25.5 Volts x 600 uA=15.3 mWatts.
Input was 12 Volts x 4.5 mA with the AP connected and
12 Volts x 3 mA without the AP connected.
So I had 54 mW input with the AP and 36 mW without it.
The difference gives 18 mW, so my output of 15.3 mW is still less then the difference increase input power of 18 mW.
So as these circuits depends much on RF effects and stray capacitances and Q resonance effects in Litz coils, I will now see, if somebody can introduce a real OU circuit with it with a positive feedback, that runs on its own energy and which is really replicateable with an offered kit including PCB board...otherwise this RF effects are just too variable to get someting to work in this frequency range.
Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

canam101

Quote from: hartiberlin on November 18, 2007, 03:53:26 PM
I will now see, if somebody can introduce a real OU circuit with it with a positive feedback, that runs on its own energy and which is really replicateable with an offered kit including PCB board...otherwise this RF effects are just too variable to get someting to work in this frequency range.
Regards, Stefan.

According to Dr. Stiffler, he and 6 other people have the device running and have OU!

QuoteAssociates (6) in all around the world have duplicated the OU condition to the extent that there is little doubt that it is real.

That is a giant achievement, and taking some of the output to make it self-sustaining should be easy.

Mr.Entropy

Quote from: xee on November 18, 2007, 12:02:24 AM
But video camera CCD responseds very similar to human eye. It records peak level of light on pixel during each frame (about 1/30 second) [...]

No, it doesn't.