Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

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@Retrod,
I will try this tonight, I have some brand new 4 or 5ft tubes I can use.
What voltage/current are you pulling on the supply?

Regards
Rob

Rob, the battery pack you see at the left in my previous post photo is my power supply. It is a 12v AA battery pack and the batteries are getting tired. Terminal voltage is down to 7.8 volts now, current at 120ma.

Just a thought on this, if these old lamp tubes (which are now a waste hazard) could be reused for cold electricity lighting purposes, and last nearly forever.....

Dave

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    @all
    some experiment observations results:
    1 - when using the LEDs in series only, I could light them up with connecting one side of the LEDs to only one AV plug
        leaving the other AV plug disconnected. Switching the order of the plug or which side of the LEDs made no difference.
    2 - Brightness of LEDs and respective output current (over 1 ohm resistor) is increased when there is NO HV. Hummm?!!
            In other words, I could get the best output (higher) with no HV. With HV it dropped significantly from 30ma to 4 to 10ma.
    3 - Touching lightly any of the AV plugs or LEDs will burn you seriously if allowed for longer than 2 seconds and this
        was with only 12v. With 20v it became rather scary!!! ( I have a buble in my finger and it hurts).
    4 - Hydrolisis had its best performance when using a special wire. It looks silver or stainless but testing with stainless
        did not produce the same results. I have to find out what is this wire made of. Definetly some catalyst effect here.
    5 - When using the LEDs in disposition such as the one Amigo described (many AV plugs) or as I was using (many in series then
        invert them and many more in series and on each section put some in parallel), inserting a ground or antenna had interesting
        effects such as increasing the output current and brightness or depending where connected in the LEDs sections decrease
        brightness and output current.
    6 - Positioning a magnet over the coil will dramatically change the dynamics of the system. In some points it will allow
        a HV signal and sometimes will not. In some points the brigthness and output current changes abruptly as if some avalanche
        point has been reached (like flipping a light switch).
    7 - Removing the transistor and replacing it with a FunGen will produce similiar results on many different frequencies but
        no apparent HV ever (this was tested only with the Amigo/mine LEDs setup).
    8 - Attaching a diode bridge after the ferrite beads (after the 1 ohm resistor) I was able to filter it out further with a
        10uf cap and 470pf and get a voltage of 8v. Hmmm!!?? I even could barely light up a 12v 800ma mini-lamp.
    9 - When not using antenna, as described on item 5, touching the LEDs would have almost no effect on performance but when using
        antenna it drasticaly changed everything.
    10- It was very difficult to find the correct values for the cap from transitor base to ground and transistor base to
        AV plug. Once found, my circuit needs a little touch on LEDs to start it up. May be it is triggering the transistor
        with a touch and after that it goes on in its self-regulated mode. I assume once a good configuration is found this
        effect should disapear.
    11- Electricity from the AV plug goes very easily through the water and if you touch the water (even when using 20v input) it
        will not burn you. Hummm!!??
    12- In some positions of the magnet over the coil I was able to change the input voltage from 9v to 20v and no apparent difference
        in brightness or output current. Hummm???!!
   
    What would happend if we connect 2 Thomas osc and each going to one side of the LEDs series?
           
    Fausto

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@EMdevices,
If open lead goes to base of transistor through capacitor, your circuit looks like Thomas circuit without base capacitor. Therefore I assume that tuning base voltage can improve circuit performance. What value potentiometer are you using?

edit: Or maybe it is base current that needs tweeking.

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