Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[plengo]

@EMdevices,
it is interesting that you have that of high value for the resistor limiting the base. In my setup I was even able to remove the resistor all together. That is weird.

More I play with this setup more I am impressed how this is working at all. I have been playing with SSG from Bedini, which is very similiar to this one, and in Bedini's design you can clearly see how the coil (similiar position as our coil) interact with the transistor to turn it on and off by the back EMF but on this setup it is even more complex than that.

The worse is just putting the ocilloscope probe anywhere changes the whole dynamics making the measurements very difficult.

Fausto.

[hoptoad]

@Hoptoad:
   I would like to caution you on randomly touching places to see whats there. RF burns happen very easy and it can take days for the effects to manifest. It is not like a normal electric shock which makes the muscles jump. It has a burning sensation to it and can do things in a short amount of time. Five watts of RF can really mess you up. I do realize that there is micro-watts here but just be safe. Until correct RF mesurements can be made, dont tempt fate.

  Otherwise, hey aint this fun? Makin a Bertha, I hope.

thaelin

Greetings Thaelin - thanks for the safety tip!
Cheers all.

[fritz]

Just a thought on this, if these old lamp tubes (which are now a waste hazard) could be reused for cold electricity lighting purposes, and last nearly forever.....
Dave

This tubes "die" because of weakened / broken heating wires at the end +
additional decay of the gas/sealing.

By using different means to start/operate the tube instead of normal
starter set up - you can operate them to the very end.

This is the typical party gag rf engineers use on the opening
party of a new rf transmitter. They put the tubes all around to
have light for beer drinking.

If you touch this tiny 20cm/12V tubes in the dark with your hands -
you can light them by the electrostatic field catched by your body.

have fun.

[Pirate88179]

@ fritz:

The rf doesn't hurt the beer does it?  That would be a shame.

Bill

[amigo]

@ Amigo

Yep, the diagram you posted is exactly the lay-out I've used for my LEDS.

I originally set it up as per the Stiffler "AV" hook up, with all 50 leds wired in a single series chain back to the "AV", but then I stripped down the elements oneby one, and eventually re-configured the O/P as shown by your diagram above. I am getting a lot more out of the same 50 LEDS set up as a chain of series "AV LEDS", than I did in the original layout.

I also have a "bar" magnet consisting of 4 neo's, which is layed lengthwise in parallel to the ferrite antenna. I would prefer to use "Heel or Front End" tuning, which is the shifting of the coils towards one end or other of the core, but my core is a self contained sealed unit which I cannot access directly.

I couldn't help noticing that when I connected the first 2 LEDS while the oscillator was turned on and running, the temperature of the transistor/s
increased dramatically and got quite hot. As I added the "AV LEDS", the temp decreased. Each added pair of Leds increased the brightness of the previous pair/s.

I have no usable voltage and current measuring instruments at the moment. The only meters I have are cheap Digital Multi-Meters, which go completely "wild" when I turn the circuit on. But I deduce that the current in the driver circuit is actually decreasing with each added pair of LEDS, leading me to believe that the brightness will continue to increase with further addition of pairs, until the load impedance equals that of the secondary impedance which is, theoretically, very high,  if it is indeed, a self tuning resonating circuit!

I just started a new 9-5 job today, so I'll have to wait until the week end to buy some more components and measuring equipment.
This circuit is very interesting. If nothing else it has revealed some unusual properties of LEDS themselves!

Also I am not using an aluminium plate, and have no ground connection, and I am using a 12V battery powered circuit.

The bright lights have got me hooked and dazed..........KneeDeep......KneeDeep

Cheers all from the Toad who Hops

@hoptoad

Great, so it seems that using the multi-AV chains does not deplete the source as fast as when connecting LEDs in series, and I would assume that is because we are staying within the open circuit topology with single wire transmission.

I now have two test setups, one on a board with metal bottom and one without so that the effects can be compared. I also got the cores today (20 of them to be exact) so I can actually come closer to using exactly the same setup as Dr.Stiffler does.

Otherwise I'm not big into measuring because I do not know what exactly we are trying to measure or hoping to achieve. I believe we need some kind of custom measuring equipment if we are to prove/disprove non-conventional effects that could be happening here.

Sadly past few days I have only been thinking about this circuit in the sense of a fancy Joule-thief because that's what it seems to be to me right now. Most of us are still struggling and have results across the board - we really need to standardize everything and be on the same page if we are to move to the next step (apparently there is one after this according to the doc).

Oh, and all the best with the new job. Remember it pays the bills to buy new toys