Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[nickle989]

@nickle989
I assume you have seen the results of the question you ask? Let me say that the current in a SEC Exciter will always contain a % of ions from the local environment, the more ions available the greater its component. This goes to where I have talked about monitoring the current in both the + and - legs of the supply. Assuming you can integrate in real time to account for asymmetry (phase difference), you will be able to see and evaluate the portion that is ionic. The ionic is NOT SEC and degrades SEC.

In short, increased ions, increased Exciter excitation and possible over heating of the transistor.

@ DrStiffler .... I unfortunatly have not had the opportunity yet .. but only had a theory of what might happen ... what you are saying is pretty much what I was thinking. I do not have an IONizer yet.  I suspect that you have looked at such results using an IONizer?  I only have a few MPSA06 left until next week.  I need to get it off the peg board and onto a regular board.  I did see some interesting things when I used used a double coil to tune in .. will post more on that in a bit. Have you made any larger units? .. using a secondary amp or ?

[DrStiffler]

@ DrStiffler .... I unfortunatly have not had the opportunity yet .. but only had a theory of what might happen ... what you are saying is pretty much what I was thinking. I do not have an IONizer yet.  I suspect that you have looked at such results using an IONizer?  I only have a few MPSA06 left until next week.  I need to get it off the peg board and onto a regular board.  I did see some interesting things when I used used a double coil to tune in .. will post more on that in a bit. Have you made any larger units? .. using a secondary amp or ?

@nickle989
What is happening to you transistors? Burning up?

&&Have you made any larger units? .. using a secondary amp or ?

What do you mean by larger? The SEC15-3 is capable of more, that is the missing parts on the board and it does better. But alas we need more feedback before we go there, one hell of a lot of boards in the 'World', I guess sitting on the mantle or coffee tables.

[amigo]

Hi Doc et al;

Heat is not my interest but cooling is - it gets pretty hot here during the summer

Otherwise, I don't have the adequate environment for H2 research so my votes go for 1 and perhaps 3:

1) Explore the decoupling of the output so we can get EI to do something like power itself.
...
3) Go back and explore the capacitor charging done in the beginning.

Thanks!

[nickle989]

@nickle989
What is happening to you transistors? Burning up?

&&Have you made any larger units? .. using a secondary amp or ?

What do you mean by larger? The SEC15-3 is capable of more, that is the missing parts on the board and it does better. But alas we need more feedback before we go there, one hell of a lot of boards in the 'World', I guess sitting on the mantle or coffee tables.

@DrStiffler ...

The transistors are burning up depending on how carried away I get ... sometimes I think they blow with some backfeed or instability of the tuning ... Stabalizing the circuit and keeping the temps down on the transistor has been a primary focus while trying different things.  Hold one of those SEC's for me for next week ...

Larger ... meaning more on the collective output even if the input needs to go up.  Would like to see some good steam production.  Winter's are darn cold here.  I would also like to start work on hydrogen side.  Seeing many practical usage areas.

[samedsoft]

@Dear Freezer,

  Thanks for the information. I wonder how you add extra neons with capacitor plates to the SEC exciter? (I mean the connections)

  What sort of change do you observe when you connect additional neon to the SEC? Thanks..


@Loki

    Are circular electrodes located inside the glass on the Xenon lamp?  If yes can you make similar electrode outside the glass and then connect it to the SEC3? I am willing to remove electrodes outside the glass and prevent electrode erosion problem.

@All

     I am trying to figure out and understand underlying theory behind  ionization of gases via RF excitation. And how highly ionized gases turn to plasma state. I will check books and web for that.

    I think SEC 3 can be used to electrolyze water to generate HHO gas, and then used to ionize these gases to convert them to plasma state! Below picture is a combined electrolyzer and ionizer concept. Helix electrode may be double helix as well. Looking for your comments!